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  • #76
    Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    I changed nothing and once again you ignored the evidence from the Bible which proves you wrong.

    And that is why you refused to answer my points in my last post.
    This is your reply when you don't agree with a post.

    Have you learned anything from another TOLer before?
    Originally posted by Interplanner
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Originally posted by Interplanner
    You're too literal to get it.
    Originally posted by Interplanner
    The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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    • #77
      The promise of the Spirit.
      It was made to the seed, Christ.
      He received it by his faith.
      It is given to us when we believe.
      We receive it THROUGH faith, THROUGH the faith of Christ.
      Originally posted by Interplanner
      They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
      Originally posted by Interplanner
      You're too literal to get it.
      Originally posted by Interplanner
      The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
        The promise of the Spirit.
        It was made to the seed, Christ.
        He received it by his faith.
        It is given to us when we believe.
        That is right. The promise is given to Christians when they believed so millions of people have received the promise which was given to them.

        So this translation cannot be correct because it says that the promise was only made to Abraham and the Lord Jesus:
        "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ" (Gal.3:16).

        Here is the correct translation:
        "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ" (Gal.3:16: NIV).
        Last edited by Jerry Shugart; August 28, 2015, 01:20 PM.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
          That is right. The promise is given to Christians when they believed so millions of people have received the promise which was given to them.

          So this translation cannot be correct because it says that the promise was only made to Abraham and the Lord Jesus:
          "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ" (Gal.3:16).

          Here is the correct translation:
          "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ" (Gal.3:16: NIV).
          Nonsense - the Promise is two fold.

          You just don't know why Paul even brought up the One Seed to begin with. He is not ignoring the Multiplied seed there, anymore than he is elsewhere in his writings.

          What they all have in common is the faith of Abraham. Said like faith being the means of availing oneself of the Promise promised to the One Seed, and through Him, to all who avail themselves of it by faith.

          Of course, turn that into your soapbox, you will, though you clearly do not understand the dynamic.

          You just don't know how to sort these issues out because you have overemphasized attempting to sort them out through a passage or two compared by you in various translations as your "wisdom."

          That is the practice of the neophyte.

          The thing to do is to scour the KJV from cover to cover, not to spit on it out of your ignorance; as you do "the messenger" - the KJV, out of the ignorance your pitiful study methods have resulted in after all these years.

          Don't like my tone. Well, change yours towards our brethren, you bully.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Danoh View Post
            Nonsense - the Promise is two fold.
            Yes, Christ received the promise by his faith.
            It is given to us when we believe.

            Hence, the Galatians that were in Christ, were heirs according to the promise.

            Jerry has a hang up about faithfulness/faith, that he must grind every one to powder with. Yes the LORD was faithful. And, yes the LORD believed what the scriptures said about him (faith) and acted accordingly.

            Everything with Jerry must be a hill to die on, an epic battle to the bitter end.
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            You're too literal to get it.
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
              That is right. The promise is given to Christians when they believed so millions of people have received the promise which was given to them.

              So this translation cannot be correct because it says that the promise was only made to Abraham and the Lord Jesus:
              "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ" (Gal.3:16).

              Here is the correct translation:
              "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ" (Gal.3:16: NIV).
              I think you have a problem reading the King James Bible.
              So, what?

              believe it!

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
                I think you have a problem reading the King James Bible.
                Jerry, and the like, can always find a translation that says it the way they want it said. It doesn't require any obedience to what is written. This is a man that can read a few Greek words, but cannot write it, or speak it.

                I will take the King James Bible as it is written, and transform my thoughts to conform to it. I will not transform the words to match what I already believe.
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                You're too literal to get it.
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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                • #83
                  It doesn't change anything, he only reads it better, and what the heck is his point?
                  So, what?

                  believe it!

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
                    It doesn't change anything, he only reads it better, and what the heck is his point?
                    Your avatar looks like what's her name, from the Superman movie with Christopher Reeve and Gene Hackman.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
                      I think you have a problem reading the King James Bible.
                      No, I have no problem with the KJV. The problem I have is with those in the KJO camp who base their arguments on their idea that the KJV is without error and any translation from another Bible cannot possibly be right if it differs from the KJV.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
                        The promise of the Spirit.
                        It was made to the seed, Christ.
                        He received it by his faith.
                        It is given to us when we believe.
                        That is right. The promise is given to Christians when they believed so millions of people have received the promise which was given to them.

                        So this translation cannot be correct because it says that the promise was only made to Abraham and the Lord Jesus:
                        "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ" (Gal.3:16).

                        Here is the correct translation:
                        "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ" (Gal.3:16: NIV).

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                          No, I have no problem with the KJV. The problem I have is with those in the KJO camp who base their arguments on their idea that the KJV is without error and any translation from another Bible cannot possibly be right if it differs from the KJV.
                          In other words, goes his assertion, he has a problem with those who have a problem with other translations, just as he has a problem with those whose views differ from his own.

                          In others words, he has a problem

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Danoh View Post
                            Can't wait til Jerry is either banned forever, gets a life, or drops dead.
                            You are out of control and obviously in need of professional help.

                            I will no longer respond to anything you say because my remarks just make your condition worse.

                            I pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that you will seek help.

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