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  • Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Has anyone noticed that this thread had turned into a debate thread on the Trinity rather than a discussion of the One-on-One between AMR and God"s Truth?
    Yeah....they always do!
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    • Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
      Has anyone noticed that this thread had turned into a debate thread on the Trinity rather than a discussion of the One-on-One between AMR and God"s Truth?
      AMR and GT debate is not trinity argument. It was plain childish fight.
      If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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      • Originally posted by steko View Post
        The word 'Deity' means having the nature of 'GOD'.....one and the same.
        ok i was going by this

        In religious belief, a deity (Listeni/ˈdiː.ɨti/ or Listeni/ˈdeɪ.ɨti/)[1] is a supernatural being, who may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred.

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        • Originally posted by steko View Post
          No I'm not.

          I'm saying that it was Jesus, that Jesus has a particular physical description, that description was not altered and that when they looked at him, their accurate perception of Him was restrained, for whatever reason and by whatever means.
          In other words, the change was not in Jesus.....the change was in their perception.
          Later, after He departed, the restraint was lifted and their perception was clarified so that they then recognized who He was. They didn't suddenly recognize Him because He morphed into a different form.
          They do NOT say they recognized his features, they say their hearts burned within them.
          Oh how I love the Word of God!

          Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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          • Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
            No, they don't debate you, because you have proven you do not listen. You don't even accept Paul's teaching....you're outside the faith and there is no reaching you at this point.
            I don't accommodate to take your bait to go off the subject.

            It is your main tactic to go off because you cannot answer simple and fundamental issues.
            If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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            • Originally posted by fishrovmen View Post
              GT, in AMR's initial post of the debate, he explained his belief in ONE God, not three.
              He explained that he believes in a three-headed God, or even four Gods.

              He says there is God, and in God there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and that they are different and distinct.

              There are NOT three different Gods.

              There is One God. The three are One and the same.
              Oh how I love the Word of God!

              Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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              • Originally posted by FraterJoseph View Post
                ok i was going by this

                In religious belief, a deity (Listeni/ˈdiː.ɨti/ or Listeni/ˈdeɪ.ɨti/)[1] is a supernatural being, who may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred.
                Yeah, I understand that popular use of the term, but when one confines one's definition of the word 'Deity' to the scriptures, it is only used of the one true GOD. In the Bible it is not used of just any supernatural being. There is true Deity, the one GOD and there is false Deity, which are not GOD at all.
                Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
                Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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                • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                  They do NOT say they recognized his features, they say their hearts burned within them.
                  Whatever!
                  Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
                  Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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                  • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                    He explained that he believes in a three-headed God, or even four Gods.

                    He says there is God, and in God there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and that they are different and distinct.

                    There are NOT three different Gods.

                    There is One God. The three are One and the same.
                    I have three dice. Each are distinct and separate, yet they are all dice. By your logic I can only have one three-headed die.

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                    • Originally posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
                      Sorry, gr, but oneness gets no claim to being Christian. Oneness by definition denies the triune nature of the Godhead. This necessarily implies something is amiss when it comes to who Jesus is and who the Holy Spirit is. We either worship the God who is, or we are idolaters. There is no middle ground.

                      This does not mean a Christian must understand the Trinity at the depths that some others may understand it. The Trinity is not beyond the grasp of any true believer. You cannot read the Scriptures plainly without seeing the Trinity in evidence. Christian reason dictates that when you read Scripture it cannot be teaching that there are three Gods and one God for that would be a contradiction. Thus, this same reason dictates you dig deeper, seek the instruction of your church, review what the church as declared in history, as well as the interpretations of the community of believers, for we worship and interpret in community.

                      Those that deny the Trinity are to be rightfully considered as outside the faith for they are without excuse for not coming to a proper understanding of the doctrines made clear in Scripture about the very God they claim to worship.

                      As to the Pinnock reference, it is made to show how the view of one of the fathers of open theism lends itself so easily to Mormonism and Mormon-like notions. Point being, if your views are being hailed by cults, and your group's founders become the cult's co-belligerents, that should give you great pause, if nothing else. Just sayin'.

                      AMR
                      So any who disagree with some of our forefathers are out of the faith?
                      I strongly disagree friend. The trinity doctrine is not expressed by the men who knew Jesus. And Jesus himself disagrees with you also. John 17:3.
                      If you wish to hold on to the errors of the majority that is your choice, I will follow the master.


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                      Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

                      Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

                      Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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                      • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                        He explained that he believes in a three-headed God, or even four Gods.

                        He says there is God, and in God there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and that they are different and distinct.

                        There are NOT three different Gods.

                        There is One God. The three are One and the same.
                        The unexplainable element of the Trinity is not in the makeup of the ONE God, but ,rather, how He is ONE being with three distinct "personages" ?
                        Omniscience limited
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                        • Originally posted by chairistotle View Post
                          I have three dice. Each are distinct and separate, yet they are all dice. By your logic I can only have one three-headed die.
                          The trinity doctrine says there are three separate and distinct Gods.

                          God is not three different and distinct Gods.
                          Oh how I love the Word of God!

                          Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                          • Originally posted by fishrovmen View Post
                            The unexplainable element of the Trinity is not in the makeup of the ONE God, but ,rather, how He is ONE being with three distinct "personages" ?
                            I get that part actually,,psalms and Jesus says,, Ye are Gods, Elohim...

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                            • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                              The trinity doctrine says there are three separate and distinct Gods.

                              God is not three different and distinct Gods.
                              Three distinct and separate personalities.
                              He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                              Jim Elliot

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                              • Originally posted by fishrovmen View Post
                                The unexplainable element of the Trinity is not in the makeup of the ONE God, but ,rather, how He is ONE being with three distinct "personages" ?
                                The trinity doctrines says they cannot explain how Jesus is God but not the Father who is God.

                                The trinity doctrine says they cannot explain how Jesus is God but not the Holy Spirit who is God.

                                I will not believe something just because you say so. Show me how Jesus is God but not the Father who is God.

                                The trinity doctrine also says that God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are different and separate.

                                God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not different and separate, they are always together and the same.

                                Study these scriptures harder: John 16:13-14; John 5:19; John 8:28; John 12:49; and, John 12:50.
                                Oh how I love the Word of God!

                                Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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