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  • Originally posted by freelight View Post
    Not familiar with Lynn Hayes, but just a few minutes in...and some great truth-insights - will check out more later.

    Indeed,...saying we are 'divine' is NOT saying we are God Almighty, as if we are the totality or finality of 'God' in toto,.... for we could never be that in this individualized 'form', albiet we are 'God' in the sense of being his imaged offspring and creative expression, in as much as the light, spirit, essence, mind and soul of God is expressing IN us....and AS us (this must all be spiritually/metaphysically discerned and related, both essentially and figuratively). - otherwise you get a muddled rejection from literalists/materialists who are wholly bound to carnality, and cannot see beyond the matter of their own inertia or ignorance.

    One can only say 'we are divine' ONLY from the view-point of divinity within his own being, on any ontological, potential or creative level. If you're a theist or spiritualist of any kind, you trust that our very existence and all its creative powers exist, because of Spirit. Spirit is One and All. There is no other 'source', 'life' or 'vitality' existing, but THAT.

    Our discernment here is in the spiritual and intellectual, - however these all apply within their own dimensional context. All is a translation of energy and consciousness, - all is God including and concluding Itself, within creation. This is all that is being and becoming, transformationally speaking. We identify 'God' as the pure original light of consciousness and source-energy from whence all creation is born, sustained and continues its play of potentials. Nothing exists outside of this Infinite ALL,...since the All is all there will ever BE (no matter differentials or descriptions of time or space).

    All the potencies and actuals of SPIRIT inhere in man, so in our communion and engagement with God, we are co-creating with Spirit in every moment,...as each seed of thought, word and action is consequentially unfolding within various sectors of the law of karma, all seed-forms creating after their own kind. All these laws and principles inhere in Nature herself, extending in every individual point of consciousness, in space and time, bearing their own affections by the laws that govern movement,...cause and effect. In this sense, we engage existence both as creators and creations.

    All is energy, but modified, modulated and continuously transforming.
    He was a traditional preacher for his first few years then he woke up to a more excellent way that freed his heart from that dead letter dead end.
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    • Originally posted by Zeke View Post
      He was a traditional preacher for his first few years then he woke up to a more excellent way that freed his heart from that dead letter dead end.
      Excellent

      Not only does the Spirit give life, but is life.


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      • concluding light..................

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        Interesting how that within consciousness itself, is a reflective quality, a mirrored psychology, so that when we consider 'God',...is it not 'God' merely reflecting upon himself, although thru the lens of an indidividualized point of consciousness in space conditioned by time?

        Again, there are some who do accept that we are 'God', since God is One, and God is All,...this understood from the point of view of pure energy, spirit, consciousness,...from God's view, which includes all points of view simultaneously. Add the concept of infinity, and all points becomes transcended, while included in the conclusion of All That IS.


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        • Originally posted by freelight View Post
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          Interesting how that within consciousness itself, is a reflective quality, a mirrored psychology, so that when we consider 'God',...is it not 'God' merely reflecting upon himself, although thru the lens of an indidividualized point of consciousness in space conditioned by time?

          Again, there are some who do accept that we are 'God', since God is One, and God is All,...this understood from the point of view of pure energy, spirit, consciousness,...from God's view, which includes all points of view simultaneously. Add the concept of infinity, and all points becomes transcended, while included in the conclusion of All That IS.


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          All life is a conclusion of consciousness
          The root of traditionalism runs pretty deep so the unworthy programming downloaded into their conscience blocks anything that would suggest otherwise, brilliant form of mind control used by the worlds ruling class that needed working class subjected with the carrot and stick psychosis, certainly mimicked in the christian exoteric theologies of the west, a perverse view of the infinites connection to man's conscience awareness of life.
          The natural order has been replaced with artificial intelligence that has taken over the minds of those susceptible to mass hypnosis especially through nationalism/patriotism hiding behind religious authority in bed with political interest that they obey come hell or high water, blindly support Democide then go to church and sing Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, well we know what some doctrines think about the limited coverage of the term all, so maybe they sing most of the children.

          I have a sense the Democide they backed and help sow on others will be reaping them shortly if they don't wake up and join the living.
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          • Zero-point infinity full-blown........

            Originally posted by Zeke View Post
            The root of traditionalism runs pretty deep so the unworthy programming downloaded into their conscience blocks anything that would suggest otherwise, brilliant form of mind control used by the worlds ruling class that needed working class subjected with the carrot and stick psychosis, certainly mimicked in the christian exoteric theologies of the west, a perverse view of the infinites connection to man's conscience awareness of life.
            The natural order has been replaced with artificial intelligence that has taken over the minds of those susceptible to mass hypnosis especially through nationalism/patriotism hiding behind religious authority in bed with political interest that they obey come hell or high water, blindly support Democide then go to church and sing Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, well we know what some doctrines think about the limited coverage of the term all, so maybe they sing most of the children.

            I have a sense the Democide they backed and help sow on others will be reaping them shortly if they don't wake up and join the living.
            Perhaps, my fellow cosmonaut

            We must along with Emerson, hitch our wagon to a star

            We are all made of stardust, and share one universal Spirit. All is one.

            Also 'God' is just a word,....all we know about anything is what perception and awareness grants, and much of that beyond 'pure awareness' is relative, distorted, limited, conditioned, circumscribed by point of view, subject to change.

            As all that is of God in us is allowed to reach its full potential and glory, God becomes all in all (in reality God already is all in all); the knowledge of divinity fills our soul and radiates only God.

            As God looks out from his own Being (thru the aperture of any soul or individual point of consciousness), all there is, is God....because there is no other awareness in which any-thing could be or appear. The allness of God includes all, is all.

            No 'God', 'divinity' or 'religious experience' exists to 'you' outside of 'you'. This self-evident truth proves the only 'space' or 'time' where and when 'God' IS. - this goes without saying, further reflecting the fundamentals of classical theism, as the fullness of omnipresence, omnipotence and omniscience. Here, now...All is.....Now, here...is All

            Zero and infinity are fully potentialized forever, here and now


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            • Originally posted by freelight View Post
              Perhaps, my fellow cosmonaut

              We must along with Emerson, hitch our wagon to a star

              We are all made of stardust, and share one universal Spirit. All is one.

              Also 'God' is just a word,....all we know about anything is what perception and awareness grants, and much of that beyond 'pure awareness' is relative, distorted, limited, conditioned, circumscribed by point of view, subject to change.

              As all that is of God in us is allowed to reach its full potential and glory, God becomes all in all (in reality God already is all in all); the knowledge of divinity fills our soul and radiates only God.

              As God looks out from his own Being (thru the aperture of any soul or individual point of consciousness), all there is, is God....because there is no other awareness in which any-thing could be or appear. The allness of God includes all, is all.

              No 'God', 'divinity' or 'religious experience' exists to 'you' outside of 'you'. This self-evident truth proves the only 'space' or 'time' where and when 'God' IS. - this goes without saying, further reflecting the fundamentals of classical theism, as the fullness of omnipresence, omnipotence and omniscience. Here, now...All is.....Now, here...is All

              Zero and infinity are fully potentialized forever, here and now
              The wakening/sprouting/birth/unfolding/rising etc...... preceded by a metaphoric state referred to as darkness the length of that incubation/sleep/death etc... is dependant on other metamorphic conditions hidden in dark sayings from the first born of flesh by myriads/sundry ways in symbolic portrayals, some follow seasonal/times/feast/new moons/days, etc........ influenced by blessing or curse determines the stages/rate of spiritual growth into longer periods of darkness/exoteric letter or light/esoteric spirit.

              We see this waking phenomenon pictured in dark vs light duplicity by the use of jew and gentile for the dual nature in man to be made one Eph 2:11-22 reads like two distinct groups and baffles the flesh to read it spiritually Gal 3:28, 4:21-28 is the same story of duplicity in man, the flesh reads it as literal history keeping its light dim as they sit in darkness, the spirit reads with its light, the flesh reads it with tradition voiding its light, they can read Luke 17:21, 1Cor 3:16, 2Cor 3:6, and goes on looking in the dead letter/historized for another exoteric kingdom and temple to come with fleshly observation, that blindness is epidemic here, blinded to the glorious paradox of being Gal 4:1, but not realizing who and what that makes them.
              Trying to awaken the divine principle in the belly of the fish.

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              • For God's sake ........

                Originally posted by Zeke View Post
                The wakening/sprouting/birth/unfolding/rising etc...... preceded by a metaphoric state referred to as darkness the length of that incubation/sleep/death etc... is dependant on other metamorphic conditions hidden in dark sayings from the first born of flesh by myriads/sundry ways in symbolic portrayals, some follow seasonal/times/feast/new moons/days, etc........ influenced by blessing or curse determines the stages/rate of spiritual growth into longer periods of darkness/exoteric letter or light/esoteric spirit.

                We see this waking phenomenon pictured in dark vs light duplicity by the use of jew and gentile for the dual nature in man to be made one Eph 2:11-22 reads like two distinct groups and baffles the flesh to read it spiritually Gal 3:28, 4:21-28 is the same story of duplicity in man, the flesh reads it as literal history keeping its light dim as they sit in darkness, the spirit reads with its light, the flesh reads it with tradition voiding its light, they can read Luke 17:21, 1Cor 3:16, 2Cor 3:6, and goes on looking in the dead letter/historized for another exoteric kingdom and temple to come with fleshly observation, that blindness is epidemic here, blinded to the glorious paradox of being Gal 4:1, but not realizing who and what that makes them.
                Yes,

                All reality however perceived or realized is done so only in consciousness, subjectively translated within any given context including all terms and qualifications related or assumed.

                The Christ is either an intellectual concept or living principle or presence or both depending on the mind concerned. It only means anything to the one perceiving its intended or assumed meaning. IT is no-thing, unless some-thing is assumed.

                Even 'God' is just a word, beyond what it symbolizes. It is therefore just as much a creation of consciousness, as consciousness is assumed to be creation of said 'God', so that ultimately Consciousness reigns as the universal matrix and arbiter of reality, from which all existence and creation inheres in and springs from, being the essence from all defined substance and form derives.

                We are not only of IT, but are individual extensions, permutations, expressions, personifications, offsprings of IT. IT is All There Is, and all there is involves and evolves within IT. There is no other, but that One, the infinite One. None besides IT can ever be, because IT is the source of all be-ing and be-coming.

                When this Pure Awareness is asked if any other God exists, IT can only respond that IT only knows It-Self. I Am that - there is no "I" or "am" outside IT.

                We could go on,....but this ought to kick-start one's own God-consciousness to recognize its own reflection. God is light.


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                • Easter is about you, a Divine seed with the power to rise again from within Luke 17:21, 1Cor 3:16, nothing evil about that regenerative process from fall to it rising again, a miraculous esoteric tale perverted by exoteric reading. 2Cor 3:6 the only divide in scripture that opens the blind eyes.
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                  • I think it wonderful to dive into the whole question of 'God', or divinity.....since we cannot even prove a 'God' exists, while existence itself is self-evident because of 'consciousness', so that the fundamental medium of reality, thru which any-thing or any-being can exist,...is consciousness

                    There is no 'God' to be known, or no 'God' that is even knowable, beyond the light of consciousness itself, which is the knower


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                    • Originally posted by freelight View Post
                      I think it wonderful to dive into the whole question of 'God', or divinity.....since we cannot even prove a 'God' exists, while existence itself is self-evident because of 'consciousness', so that the fundamental medium of reality, thru which any-thing or any-being can exist,...is consciousness

                      There is no 'God' to be known, or no 'God' that is even knowable, beyond the light of consciousness itself, which is the knower
                      It seems like the end of existence when that perception is given thought, absolute infinity is another bottomless pit of possibilities that awaits, another dream perhaps.
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                      • Originally posted by Zeke View Post
                        It seems like the end of existence when that perception is given thought, absolute infinity is another bottomless pit of possibilities that awaits, another dream perhaps.


                        All life in this 3-dimensional realm is an illusion of perception anyways, meaning all facets of perception are conditioned or modified thru some particular filter or lens, so that while all appearances are refractions of reality relative to those conditions that make for their appearing, you're still back to appearances, no matter their nuance or density of form. If this is all a 'Dream of God' anyways,...then we are but segways, individual expressions of One Infinite Intelligence, of which we are free to adopt any belief system, cult, tradition or school that so fancies us, and much is granted by the culture we are born into or cultured by.

                        All there is is consciousness, and its translations being interpreted thru space and time. We co-create our own reality to that extent that we have creative and determinitive powers (See the Seth Material).

                        Any number of formats, potentials and possibilities exist in infinity, so the creativity of Spirit is endless.


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                        • Originally posted by freelight View Post


                          All life in this 3-dimensional realm is an illusion of perception anyways, meaning all facets of perception are conditioned or modified thru some particular filter or lens, so that while all appearances are refractions of reality relative to those conditions that make for their appearing, you're still back to appearances, no matter their nuance or density of form. If this is all a 'Dream of God' anyways,...then we are but segways, individual expressions of One Infinite Intelligence, of which we are free to adopt any belief system, cult, tradition or school that so fancies us, and much is granted by the culture we are born into or cultured by.

                          All there is is consciousness, and its translations being interpreted thru space and time. We co-create our own reality to that extent that we have creative and determinitive powers (See the Seth Material).

                          Any number of formats, potentials and possibilities exist in infinity, so the creativity of Spirit is endless.
                          kinda humorous to watch the religious pride parade, a dream turned into nightmares.
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                          • Originally posted by Zeke View Post
                            kinda humorous to watch the religious pride parade, a dream turned into nightmares.
                            And to think that 'free will', if at all any arbiter of destiny, has its place in granting 'heaven' or 'hell', it can be scary - then again,...if 'heaven' or 'hell' are some just qualities of consciousness or conditions of awareness, then it matters not whether here in time or eternity, our minds are 'set' just so that they are established in whatever 'heaven' or 'hell' we choose, since All exists in consciousness anyways, unless all awareness were to suddenly and eternally vanish, at which point there be nothing to know or experience. But what do I know?


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