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  • Originally posted by some other dude View Post
    Isn't it interesting that you willingly take this stance wrt an organization whose goals you do not share, but that you are so blind to the internal problems in your own organization?
    just look at all of the groups on tol ! they all act that way.....
    there is not one group, no , not one, that is 'safe' nor 'right'
    except for the group
    that is not a group - those who expose the lie in any group because
    anyone who
    trust in man or in man's group is doooom- ed.
    ......

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    • Isn't it interesting that you willingly take this stance wrt an organization whose goals you do not share, but that you are so blind to the internal problems in your own organization?
      If you mean public schools, I'm deeply concerned about a number of trends that are being touted as new ideas, but have failed in the past. Scripting is one; it's failed to work in Japan, and is threatening their position in math and technology. Another is recruiting non-teachers for administrative positions. American industry went through that in the 70s. Remember when they said you didn't have to know anything about your business to be a good manager in it?

      If you mean about the problems with sexual molestation in churches, what really got you angry was that I acknowledged the problems and what to do about them. And of course, your discovery that the problem is even greater for your side.

      You even challenged me to show it was true in your denomination, but of course, when asked, you were too ashamed to tell us what it is.
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      • Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
        If you mean public schools
        No, I didn't mean public schools.

        If you mean about the problems with sexual molestation in churches, what really got you angry was that I acknowledged the problems and what to do about them
        I'm still unsure why you keep claiming that I'm angry when I have assured you that I'm not.

        Are you feebleminded? Maybe a little, um?



        And as for the corruption in your church, all the way to the top, I find it ironic that you would "feel better if the rest of you (tea-partyers) would clean the scum out" when the scum you are discussing are those fringe elements who use language that offends you, yet you don't call for the same house cleaning in your own organization (the Catholic Church) whose sins are those of child molestation, homosexual rape, enabling the same and covering up the crimes.

        When it comes to language that offends you, you call for a cleaning out.

        When it comes to breaking the law and raping children, you don't.


        Some might find that hypocritical.


        . And of course, your discovery that the problem is even greater for your side.
        You keep making that claim, but when challenged to present even one case to support your claim, you failed.

        You even challenged me to show it was true in your denomination, but of course, when asked, you were too ashamed to tell us what it is.
        You have made the assumption that it was true in "my denomination". It's up to you to prove your assumption.

        So far you have failed.
        Last edited by some other dude; February 19th, 2011, 08:52 AM.

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