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  • #61
    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    What is sin leading to death?
    1 John 5:16-17 NASB
    16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this.
    17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

    Can we pray for believers or non-believers who commit sin leading to death?
    Sin leading to death are the sins that some people are put to death for by their Government.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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    • #62
      ALL sin leads to the experience of a bodily death where the spirit leaves the body. One sin, the unforgivable sin, rejecting to put one's faith in YHWH because of the commited belief HE is a false god and a liar, leads to eternal death, ie, a spiritual death where the spirit leaves GOD's presence for ever.
      I Champion GOD’s holiness:
      - GOD did not need evil so did not create evil for any reason.
      - All evil is creature-created.

      I Champion Our Free will:
      - All spirits created in HIS image had an equal ability and opportunity to choose either heaven or hell by their free will.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
        Sin leading to death are the sins that some people are put to death for by their Government.
        Try looking at post 40
        He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

        Jim Elliot

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        • #64
          Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
          Sin leading to death are the sins that some people are put to death for by their Government.
          Would it be Israel with the Law of Moses or would it be the governing authorities of other nations or of another nation? The Gentiles or Gentile nations?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
            The sin leading to death is unbelief in Jesus Christ and who He said He was.
            Is it a sin leading to death or the sin leading to death? Because what is committing a sin?

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            • #66
              Sin that leads to death is (simply) unrepentant sin.
              "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

              " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
              Gordon H. Clark

              "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
              Charles Spurgeon

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              • #67
                Originally posted by ttruscott View Post
                ALL sin leads to the experience of a bodily death where the spirit leaves the body. One sin, the unforgivable sin, rejecting to put one's faith in YHWH because of the commited belief HE is a false god and a liar, leads to eternal death, ie, a spiritual death where the spirit leaves GOD's presence for ever.
                I urge you to reconsider, because I don't relate to your post. But there are many things that I do not understand.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
                  The sin leading to death is unbelief in Jesus Christ and who He said He was.
                  The sin leading to death was said to believers about their sin.
                  Oh how I love the Word of God!

                  Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                    Would it be Israel with the Law of Moses or would it be the governing authorities of other nations or of another nation? The Gentiles or Gentile nations?
                    It is about any nation who arrests you and puts you to jail and puts you to death for a crime.

                    As Christians, we are not to pray about not being put to death for a crime that our Government puts people to death for.
                    Oh how I love the Word of God!

                    Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Nang View Post
                      Sin that leads to death is (simply) unrepentant sin.
                      If so if a person repents we should pray for them that they would be healed, (?forgiven their sin).

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                        It is about any nation who arrests you and puts you to jail and puts you to death for a crime.

                        As Christians, we are not to pray about not being put to death for a crime that our Government puts people to death for.
                        God's Law, the Law of Moses, is just. In our nation, the United States of America, we have this from God's dealing with Israel and the Gentiles or the world, and our laws which are man's laws and should also be just. I do not know that they are not, but we have the governing authorities to respect. I don't know what you might be thinking, and I don't have a made up scenario. If the government puts people to death for an unjust reason we can say that it is not just. Innocent people therefore die (abortion). But what are you thinking, if you can share? Because I would need to know what it is. However, respecting the governing authorities, if they act according to God's will, then should we not pray a person would be forgiven their sin? Or must they repent, perhaps first? Can they be forgiven, or will they not be forgiven? Thanks.

                        Shalom.

                        Jacob

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                          God's Law, the Law of Moses, is just. In our nation, the United States of America, we have this from God's dealing with Israel and the Gentiles or the world, and our laws which are man's laws and should also be just. I do not know that they are not, but we have the governing authorities to respect. I don't know what you might be thinking, and I don't have a made up scenario. If the government puts people to death for an unjust reason we can say that it is not just. Innocent people therefore die (abortion). But what are you thinking, if you can share? Because I would need to know what it is. However, respecting the governing authorities, if they act according to God's will, then should we not pray a person would be forgiven their sin? Or must they repent, perhaps first? Can they be forgiven, or will they not be forgiven? Thanks.

                          Shalom.

                          Jacob
                          The scripture we were talking about is about forgiveness of sin and the person not dying, and how there is a sin that leads to death and not to pray about that.

                          There is a sin that leads to death. That is about a Christian sins and commits a crime and is going to be put to death for it not to pray that the person will not be put to death.
                          Oh how I love the Word of God!

                          Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                            The scripture we were talking about is about forgiveness of sin and the person not dying, and how there is a sin that leads to death and not to pray about that.

                            There is a sin that leads to death. That is about a Christian sins and commits a crime and is going to be put to death for it not to pray that the person will not be put to death.
                            Your paragraphs sound different. Like you are taking different interpretations. Is that true?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                              If so if a person repents we should pray for them that they would be healed, (?forgiven their sin).
                              Not quite my point . . .

                              When God forgives and justifies a sinner, they are granted repentance from God. Repentance is evidence of forgiveness. And the Christian prays for all blessings upon such souls.

                              However, when a Christian observes an unrepentant person, in continual enmity against God the Holy Spirit through deliberate rejection of the gospel message, they are to realize such unbelief will be the sure death of that person.

                              I believe I John 5:16-19 coincides with Matthew 12:31-32; 16:19.
                              "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

                              " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
                              Gordon H. Clark

                              "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
                              Charles Spurgeon

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                                What is sin leading to death?
                                1 John 5:16-17 NASB
                                16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this.
                                17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

                                Can we pray for believers or non-believers who commit sin leading to death?

                                I think - imho - we can pray that they turn away from the sin and ask for forgiveness, and be strengthened (believers); Thinking of Jesus praying for Peter.

                                Luke 22
                                31 “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat.
                                32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”




                                We pray for non-believers that they seek God and find salvation.

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