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  • ECT: Have You Heard? There is Scripture That Proves Two Different Creations!

    The standard response to the question "Why doesn't Gen 1 and Gen 2 speak identically about creation?" is "It is, but in a different way".

    My take on this is "Not true".

    What is yours? I ask because this forum is for those that have really studied God's word.

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    Genesis 1 and 2 are merely dissimilar creation accounts. This isn't all that unusual. There are two alternative scenarios that span world history from the time of Daniel the prophet till the end of the world and there are three possible endtime scenarios depicted in the book of Revelation.
    Last edited by Shubee; November 18th, 2018, 10:50 PM.

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    • #3
      I just know that someone else has read the same scriptures that I have, but can't bring themselves to accept the facts.

      Open up and join me in this love of truth.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by iamaberean View Post
        The standard response to the question "Why doesn't Gen 1 and Gen 2 speak identically about creation?" is "It is, but in a different way".


        Sounds like a weird answer to an even weirder question. Why would you expect Genesis 1 and 2 to give identical recountings?
        Where is the evidence for a global flood?
        E≈mc2
        "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

        "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
        -Bob B.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Stripe View Post


          Sounds like a weird answer to an even weirder question. Why would you expect Genesis 1 and 2 to give identical recountings?
          I just accept it as being different, because it is. You accept it as being the same, even though it is entirely different.

          If you want me to, I'll explain step by step.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stripe View Post


            Why would you expect Genesis 1 and 2 to give identical recountings?
            You're not understanding what has been said. The two accounts contain minor discrepancies.

            The first account has plants created on day 3 and man created on day 6. The second creation account has man created first, then vegetation.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by iamaberean View Post
              I just accept it as being different, because it is. You accept it as being the same, even though it is entirely different.

              If you want me to, I'll explain step by step.
              They're different. They're not entirely different.
              Originally posted by Shubee View Post
              You're not understanding what has been said. The two accounts contain minor discrepancies.

              The first account has plants created on day 3 and man created on day 6. The second creation account has man created first, then vegetation.
              OK.

              Can you put a "therefore" on the end of that? Most of the time, we get posts like this and the implied conclusion is: Therefore, evolution.
              Where is the evidence for a global flood?
              E≈mc2
              "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

              "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
              -Bob B.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                Can you put a "therefore" on the end of that? Most of the time, we get posts like this and the implied conclusion is: Therefore, evolution.
                I'm a strong believer in the book of Genesis (modulo insignificant discrepancies), primarily because of wonderful corroborating evidence.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shubee View Post
                  I'm a strong believer in the book of Genesis.
                  OK.

                  Back to the question. You said: "The two accounts contain minor discrepancies."

                  Can you put a "therefore" on the end of that? Ie: The two accounts contain minor discrepancies, therefore... something.
                  Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                  E≈mc2
                  "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                  "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                  -Bob B.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shubee View Post
                    The first account has plants created on day 3 and man created on day 6. The second creation account has man created first, then vegetation.
                    Originally posted by Shubee View Post
                    This isn't all that unusual. There are two alternative scenarios that span world history from the time of Daniel the prophet till the end of the world and there are three possible endtime scenarios depicted in the book of Revelation.
                    There are many riddles in the Scriptures. See, for example, Contradiction: Who Incited David to Count the Fighting Men of Israel—God or Satan?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Stripe View Post


                      Sounds like a weird answer to an even weirder question. Why would you expect Genesis 1 and 2 to give identical recountings?
                      1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by iamaberean View Post
                        1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion
                        This is a non sequitur. Non-identical recountings are not sufficient to say there is confusion.
                        Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                        E≈mc2
                        "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                        "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                        -Bob B.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shubee View Post
                          There are many riddles in the Scriptures.
                          There are not many answers in you.
                          Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                          E≈mc2
                          "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                          "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                          -Bob B.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                            This is a non sequitur. Non-identical recountings are not sufficient to say there is confusion.


                            Gen 1 God created with input from angels.
                            Gen 2 LORD God alone created Adam from the earth.

                            Gen 1 God created them, male and female
                            Gen 2 LORD God created Adam from dust and later on Eve from his bone

                            Gen 1 God told mankind to go and replenish the earth
                            Gen 2 LORD God put Adam in a garden

                            Gen 1 God created the beasts of the earth
                            Gen 2 LORD God formed every beast of the field

                            Gen 1 speaks of filling the earth with people, beast, fish and trees for meat.
                            Gen 2 speaks of placing a man named Adam in a garden called Eden to dress it and keep it. Then LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them:

                            Gen 1 speaks of earth and Gen 2 speaks of a field, a place for domestic animals and then, after looking for a help meet from the females God created in Gen 1 and not finding one, he took a rid from Adam and created Eve.

                            Entirely different type of people, plants and animals in Gen 1 and Gen 2.

                            Did you also note, and understand the difference of God in Gen 1 and LORD God in Gen 2?

                            One has to understand these things or there is confusion, since they can not explain the differences with scripture.

                            One can have an opinion, but that doesn’t make it true!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by iamaberean View Post
                              Gen 1 God created with input from angels. Gen 2 LORD God alone created Adam from the earth.
                              No such differences are specified.

                              Gen 1 God created them, male and female. Gen 2 LORD God created Adam from dust and later on Eve from his bone
                              Does that confuse you?

                              Gen 1 God told mankind to go and replenish the earthGen 2 LORD God put Adam in a garden
                              Yes. And?

                              Gen 1 God created the beasts of the earth Gen 2 LORD God formed every beast of the field
                              Are you going to continue like this?

                              Gen 1 speaks of filling the earth with people, beast, fish and trees for meat. Gen 2 speaks of placing a man named Adam in a garden called Eden to dress it and keep it. Then LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them:


                              Gen 1 speaks of earth and Gen 2 speaks of a field, a place for domestic animals and then, after looking for a help meet from the females God created in Gen 1 and not finding one, he took a rid from Adam and created Eve.
                              Uh-huh.

                              Entirely different type of people, plants and animals in Gen 1 and Gen 2.
                              Because you say so?

                              Did you also note, and understand the difference of God in Gen 1 and LORD God in Gen 2?
                              Care to elucidate?

                              One has to understand these things or there is confusion, since they can not explain the differences with scripture.
                              What's to explain?

                              One can have an opinion, but that does not make it true.
                              Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                              E≈mc2
                              "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                              "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                              -Bob B.

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