You're right. Ok, what book and chapter of the Bible is the lost, traitor to his own people, teller of tall stories is Josephus in?
Even Preterists have problems with his assertions.
ECT We are not Israel, but the Body of Christ
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You're right. Ok, what book and chapter of the Bible is the lost, traitor to his own people, teller of tall stories is Josephus in?
Even Preterists have problems with his assertions.
Israel is the bride of the Father. The church is the bride of the Son. There is a remnantstill with us (Deut 3:11, Am 1:8). They're going to be
showing their stuff soon (Re 11:3). :bowser: :bowser:
"Heb 7:12–14 Since Christ is the Christian’s High-Priest and He was of the tribe of Judah, not Levi (cf. Matt. 2:1, 6; Rev. 5:5), His priesthood is clearly beyond the law which was the authority for the Levitical priesthood (cf. v. 11). This is proof that the Mosaic law had been abrogated. The Levitical system was replaced by a new Priest, offering a new sacrifice, under a New Covenant. He abrogated the law by fulfilling it (cf. Matt. 5:17) and providing the perfection which the law could never accomplish (cf. Matt. 5:20)." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 1907). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
"The church is the bride of the Son.."-made up-no such thing.
"This is proof that the Mosaic law had been abrogated"=made up, and you assert that murder.....................is just fine, as all are saved, since if there is no law, there is no transgression, and sin is not imputed, where there is no law.
"Christ is the Christian’s High-Priest "-absolutely clueless, as only sinners, need a High Priest. Believers have an advocate, not High Priest. Of course, since you are lost, you do need a High Priest.
You are a biblically illiterate embarrassment, witness you quoting all these other "writers," such as Genron, McArthur......................................as you would not know the difference between the book of Job, and Apple founder Steve Jobs.
Take your seat.
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The body of Christ is Israel.
It is NOT about earthy land, it is about what is spiritual. The whole Old Testament taught about the Spiritual that would come, Jesus Christ.
The Old Testament is about earthy man, the New Testament is about spiritual man.
WOW, UNBELIEVABLE.
Being BORN AGAIN IS THE SAME THING AS A NEW CREATURE.
All saved are priests to God.
What don't you get about God NOT CARING ANYMORE ABOUT TO WHOM WE ARE BLOOD RELATED?
God cared because He loved Abraham and promised Abraham that the Messiah would be blood related to him. Since Jesus came and died, God only cares about those who come to Him through Jesus' BLOOD.
See John 1:13.
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Heir,
the original replacement issue is Gal 3:17. The modern one is artificial. You have to figure out who voided and switched the Promise and Law as mentioned in Gal 3:17.
the original replacement issue is Gal 3:17. The modern one is artificial. You have to figure out who voided and switched the Promise and Law as mentioned in Gal 3:17.
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Eph. 5:22–32 :dizzy:
Too bad you lead your little chickadees astray (2 Pe 2:1).
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After all this time you still remain in a "Cocoon of Ignorance." Quite amazing actually. No offense intended, just an educated observation. Ya know what I mean? Probably not?
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The Israel that the NT says has emerged is the one that does God's mission in the Gospel (Mt 21). The issues that related to the other one (land, temples, etc) are over with.
"This is proof that the Mosaic law had been abrogated"=made up, and you assert that murder.....................is just fine, as all are saved, since if there is no law, there is no transgression, and sin is not imputed, where there is no law.@@@@
Eph. 5:22–32 :dizzy:
Too bad you lead your little chickadees astray (2 Pe 2:1).
See:
Lordship
"Christ is the Christian’s High-Priest "-absolutely clueless, as only sinners, need a High Priest. Believers have an advocate, not High Priest. Of course, since you are lost, you do need a High Priest.
You are a biblically illiterate embarrassment, witness you quoting all these other "writers," such as Genron, McArthur......................................, and, in this "post," spammimg your "Lordship" link, for the 666 time,as you would not know the difference between the book of Joel, and Billy Joel.
Take your seat.
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Well, not the ethne Israel. But the apostles speak of another Israel and it is that one. It exists by faith and is mature in spiritual life and in the mission of God.
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From H8280 and H410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: - Israel.
Jacob was given the symbolic name of Israel, he would never rules as God.
Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
Mat 2:15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
We, as Christians, are the children of God, children of the King and children of Israel spiritually. We are prince and princesses.
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God does NOT consider ANYONE's blood relations anymore.
Who cares who you are blood related to?
God does not care.
There is no special salvation and happening for ethnic Jews, or Jewish converts. They are just like any Gentile or Greek.
Who cares who you are blood related to?
God does not care.
There is no special salvation and happening for ethnic Jews, or Jewish converts. They are just like any Gentile or Greek.
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So you don't know Gal 3 then.
There is obviously another Israel in the apostle's teaching. Only a few of the ethne Israel believe.
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The reason why blood relations was a concern to God in the past, it is because God loved Abraham and said that He would send the Savior in the flesh, a flesh and blood relative of Abraham.
Since Jesus has come, the only blood relation is ----to come to God through that blood of Jesus.
What does it mean to come to the blood of Jesus?
Does it mean we just have to believe and do nothing else?
No.
Coming to the blood of Jesus means coming to have the SINS you have done WASHED AWAY---the SINS you REPENT OF DOING.
Why blood?
Because God taught that the life was in the blood.
The BLOOD SYMBOLIZES LIFE.
See Leviticus 17:14.
So how does the blood of animals atone for the souls of the people in the Old Testament?
Because God said to do it.
How does Jesus' blood atone for our souls?
Because through the greatness of believing---the greatness of that believing is called faith---Jesus will recognize you; BUT STILL, one has to repent of their sins. What is the use of coming to Jesus in faith to be washed if one is not ready to stop all sins and obey?
Since Jesus has come, the only blood relation is ----to come to God through that blood of Jesus.
What does it mean to come to the blood of Jesus?
Does it mean we just have to believe and do nothing else?
No.
Coming to the blood of Jesus means coming to have the SINS you have done WASHED AWAY---the SINS you REPENT OF DOING.
Why blood?
Because God taught that the life was in the blood.
The BLOOD SYMBOLIZES LIFE.
See Leviticus 17:14.
So how does the blood of animals atone for the souls of the people in the Old Testament?
Because God said to do it.
How does Jesus' blood atone for our souls?
Because through the greatness of believing---the greatness of that believing is called faith---Jesus will recognize you; BUT STILL, one has to repent of their sins. What is the use of coming to Jesus in faith to be washed if one is not ready to stop all sins and obey?
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The Jews had the teaching tools...about blood washing one's self, and making one clean.
Jesus is the one who God was preparing the world for...the blood of the LAMB.
God was preparing the world for a washing, and using the blood of animals as the teaching tool of what was coming. Jesus was coming.
Lamb's blood only made the people outwardly clean. Why? Because God said so.
But what about what cleans INSIDE A PERSON, inside a person's heart?
How does the blood of animals do that?
The blood of animals do not do that.
That is why God was angry with the people of Israel, because they would have sin in their hearts and minds...give a required offering and sacrifice of an animal...but not really be sorry for any sin their mind and heart desired.
What makes the difference? The heart and mind of one who wants to be obedient...the one who is obedient.
Faith with obedience makes the difference. A person who comes to be made clean by the blood of Jesus, they must be sorry for those sins and want to stop those sins.
Jesus helps us stop our sins, he helps us...but we have to do something...we have to do exactly as he says...then you can overcome those sins.
Jesus is the one who God was preparing the world for...the blood of the LAMB.
God was preparing the world for a washing, and using the blood of animals as the teaching tool of what was coming. Jesus was coming.
Lamb's blood only made the people outwardly clean. Why? Because God said so.
But what about what cleans INSIDE A PERSON, inside a person's heart?
How does the blood of animals do that?
The blood of animals do not do that.
That is why God was angry with the people of Israel, because they would have sin in their hearts and minds...give a required offering and sacrifice of an animal...but not really be sorry for any sin their mind and heart desired.
What makes the difference? The heart and mind of one who wants to be obedient...the one who is obedient.
Faith with obedience makes the difference. A person who comes to be made clean by the blood of Jesus, they must be sorry for those sins and want to stop those sins.
Jesus helps us stop our sins, he helps us...but we have to do something...we have to do exactly as he says...then you can overcome those sins.
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It helps people to know that Jesus is not just about stopping sins. Before that, he is about atoning for or justifying us from the debt of them.
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Those with no actual knowledge love to throw out these "stumpers".
Oh me, oh my... what can I do now. Interplanner is soooo smart. NOT!
This does NOT make members of the body of Christ where here is NIETHER JEW NOR GENTILE suddenly "spiritual Israel".