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  • #46
    Originally posted by heir View Post
    Those who do not approve things that are excellent are the ones being divisive
    It's you who is trying to divide Christ Jesus.

    Christ Jesus cannot be divided no matter how hard you keep trying.

    The Apostle Paul said the following re: himself

    (Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”


    Paul's own words tells us that Paul preached what he once tried to destroy.

    You claim Paul preached a different gospel.
    (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
      It's you who is trying to divide Christ Jesus.

      Christ Jesus cannot be divided no matter how hard you keep trying.

      The Apostle Paul said the following re: himself

      (Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”


      Paul's own words tells us that Paul preached what he once tried to destroy.

      You claim Paul preached a different gospel.
      Show where any apostle before Paul preached the Cross as God's good news for Jews and Gentiles alike.
      "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
      Terence Mc Lean

      [most will be very surprised]


      Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
      By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by musterion View Post
        Show where any apostle before Paul preached the Cross as God's good news for Jews and Gentiles alike.
        Explain Paul's own words:

        (Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”

        You claim that what Paul once tried to destroy was a different gospel than what Paul preached.

        That's not what Paul says in Gal 1:23
        (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by heir View Post
          Wrong again! Correct your stinking thinking!

          Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

          Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.


          Quote:
          Originally Posted by andyc View Post
          Every Christian receives the gospel through a revelation. There's no other way to receive it.
          Now read what you wrote and explain, if you can. [really, i don't care if you can or not]

          O man! Romans 10:17 KJV

          Quote:
          If the gospel is received through human persuasion, it nullifies the wisdom and power of God.
          1 Corinthians 1:21 KJV
          "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Cross Reference View Post
            Paul received the gospel by the anointed mouth of Ananias.
            Actually, he received healing from Ananias for his blindness,
            and he also received from him the Holy Spirit
            as Scripture records...

            Arsenios
            Arsenios

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            • #51
              Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
              Explain Paul's own words:

              (Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”

              You claim that what Paul once tried to destroy was a different gospel than what Paul preached.

              That's not what Paul says in Gal 1:23
              Show where the Cross was preached as good news before Paul preached it as good news.
              "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
              Terence Mc Lean

              [most will be very surprised]


              Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
              By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cross Reference View Post
                Now read what you wrote and explain, if you can. [really, i don't care if you can or not]
                You said Paul received the gospel by Ananias, but he didn't! He received it by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

                Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

                Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.


                And "that gospel" (Galatians 2:2 KJV) is:


                1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

                1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

                1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

                1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

                But fool as you are, you resist the truth.
                2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

                Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by musterion View Post
                  Show where the Cross was preached as good news before Paul preached it as good news.
                  As expected, you can't explain the verse.

                  (Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”

                  Paul's own words above, proves your MAD wrong.

                  Which is why you can't explain the verse.

                  MAD is a mess.
                  (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
                    As expected, you can't explain the verse.

                    (Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”

                    Paul's own words above, proves your MAD wrong.

                    Which is why you can't explain the verse.

                    MAD is a mess.
                    Please show where someone prior to Paul preached the Cross itself not only as good news for man but as the power of God unto salvation.
                    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
                    Terence Mc Lean

                    [most will be very surprised]


                    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
                    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
                      As expected, you can't explain the verse.

                      (Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”

                      Paul's own words above, proves your MAD wrong.

                      Which is why you can't explain the verse.

                      MAD is a mess.
                      What do you want explained ? That within the already established Christian faith, Paul was a chosen vessel to receive brand new instruction and revelation, straight from Christ Jesus ?

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                      • #56
                        Good call, sister Heir, thank you!
                        "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
                        Terence Mc Lean

                        [most will be very surprised]


                        Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
                        By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

                        Comment


                        • #57
                          For the Record, Peter preached the cross

                          (1 Peter 2:24) “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”

                          As we see above, Peter preached the same thing Paul preached re: the cross.
                          (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by musterion View Post
                            Please show where someone prior to Paul preached the Cross itself not only as good news for man but as the power of God unto salvation.

                            (Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”


                            Paul's own words completely destroys MAD.
                            (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by musterion View Post
                              Show where the Cross was preached as good news before Paul preached it as good news.
                              Christ Himself preached it:

                              Matt 10:38

                              And he that taketh not his cross,
                              and followeth after me,
                              is not worthy of me.


                              Matt 16:24
                              Then said Jesus unto his disciples,
                              If any man will come after me,
                              let him deny himself,
                              and take up his cross,
                              and follow me.


                              The cross has been preached as a part of the Gospel of Christ from the time of Christ to the present... Paul also preached the Cross... Repenting itself is a cross each of us must take up, so that even John the Baptist preached the Cross when he proclaimed: "Be ye repenting, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!" Good news indeed! The Gospel of Christ from the lips of the Forerunner of Christ: John the Baptizer of Christ in the Jordan!

                              But no one has answered Tet's point, that Paul himself tells us that he was preaching the same Gospel which he once was attacking...

                              Gal 1:23
                              The one persecuting us before,
                              is now preaching the Faith
                              which once he was destroying

                              [my very literal translation]

                              These are Paul's words...

                              WHICH Faith is Paul preaching?
                              The SAME Faith which once he was attacking...

                              It is hard to kick against the pricks...

                              No one can answer Tet...

                              You can only attack his person...

                              What is written cannot be unwritten...

                              Arsenios
                              Arsenios

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
                                For the Record, Peter preached the cross

                                (1 Peter 2:24) “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”

                                As we see above, Peter preached the same thing Paul preached re: the cross.
                                When did Peter write that: before his meeting Paul, or after?
                                "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
                                Terence Mc Lean

                                [most will be very surprised]


                                Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
                                By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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