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  • Lon
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    Originally posted by Pierac View Post
    I understand you have no scripture to use to support what your told to believe. Thus the emotional response to fill the void! It's OK, I know you don't understand tough love! Love and truth is never easy for those who choose not to see. Just look at CNN

    Sorry but you treat Keypurr like I treat you! get that log out of your eye.... Calling him a cult... CNN to the max!

    Gods speed and love to you,

    Paul
    Was ▲THIS▲ supposed to be your spiritual man writing this? Was ▲THIS▲ supposed to be from a caring man concerned with souls???

    I still can't read you, Paul. Nothing has changed. I have not treated him poorly and he is against orthodox Christianity so 'cult' by definition. You took that with offense? I am orthodox. How could cult be applied? How could that be a log??? Do you return evil for evil (real or imagined)? Romans 12:17 1 Peter 3:9

    Where is 'love to me?'

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  • Lon
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    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    TRUTH should not be offensive. It is to you Lon.
    You make stuff up, Robert! What in the world caused you to write this?

    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    Trust in the Lord Lon, Satan has no power over me. But you should worry.
    You are a weirdo, judging men's hearts and future destinations over this disagreement. No wonder you get into trouble and get infractions. Can't you carry on a conversation without jumping to "you better watch out when you disagree with ME!"?

    What is wrong with you? Where is your heart?

    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    You must be one of Lon's star students.
    Are you TRYING to be carnal and fleshly???

    Are your ideas so precious that they cannot be assaulted or questioned???

    How secure can you possibly be doing this kind of stuff and arguing so underhandedly?

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  • keypurr
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    Please provide us all with "the perfect translation".
    There is none.

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  • JudgeRightly
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    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    TRUTH should not be offensive. It is to you Lon.

    Trust in the Lord Lon, Satan has no power over me. But you should worry.
    Truth is offensive to those who are opposed to truth. You're one of them.

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  • keypurr
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    Originally posted by Lon View Post
    EVERY cult tells me they are going to heaven and I'm not. EVERY LAST ONE! You ALL can't be right! So weird. Such a tragic flimsy arrow in your arsenal. What for? Simply to try to have "God on MY side!" You are into yourself more than my Savior, God. Sad days. When is the last time I tried to make you believe you were going to the fires of hell? NICE attack here, Bob. Are you proud? What did The Lord Jesus Christ say to the Sons of Thunder for wanting to call down fire? Luke 9:54-55
    TRUTH should not be offensive. It is to you Lon.

    Trust in the Lord Lon, Satan has no power over me. But you should worry.

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  • keypurr
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    Originally posted by 7djengo7 View Post
    Thank you for quoting several passages of Scripture, every one of which is a passage which DOES NOT SAY "Jesus has a GOD"!

    That's what YOU say: "Jesus has a GOD". SCRIPTURE, on the other hand, never says "Jesus has a GOD". That's why you fail. In about 1 second of Scripture searching, I found that Scripture never, not even once, says "Jesus has a GOD". When you tell me that Scripture says "Jesus has a GOD", all I have to do is look, within the very borders of your post, at the very excerpts from Scripture that you've just handed to me, to know that Pierac is flat out lying to me. See how easy it is for you to make yourself known to be a bald faced liar! Give yourself an hour, and you couldn't possibly become, nor look to be, more of a liar than you already look, and are, right this very minute.

    And, so far, you've also entirely stonewalled against the question I asked you:



    So far, nothing but very, very loud silence from you against that question.
    You must be one of Lon's star students.

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  • 7djengo7
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    Originally posted by Pierac View Post
    Really?

    Allow me to show you!!!


    Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

    See how easy it was to make you look stupid, in about 1 min of scripture searchs! Give me an hour and I will make you look like a fool!


    Paul
    Thank you for quoting several passages of Scripture, every one of which is a passage which DOES NOT SAY "Jesus has a GOD"!

    That's what YOU say: "Jesus has a GOD". SCRIPTURE, on the other hand, never says "Jesus has a GOD". That's why you fail. In about 1 second of Scripture searching, I found that Scripture never, not even once, says "Jesus has a GOD". When you tell me that Scripture says "Jesus has a GOD", all I have to do is look, within the very borders of your post, at the very excerpts from Scripture that you've just handed to me, to know that Pierac is flat out lying to me. See how easy it is for you to make yourself known to be a bald faced liar! Give yourself an hour, and you couldn't possibly become, nor look to be, more of a liar than you already look, and are, right this very minute.

    And, so far, you've also entirely stonewalled against the question I asked you:

    Originally posted by 7djengo7 View Post
    What (if anything) do you imagine you mean when you say "Jesus has a GOD"?
    So far, nothing but very, very loud silence from you against that question.

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  • Pierac
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    Originally posted by Lon View Post
    Matthew 5:46

    I've got you on ignore for statements like this and for some of your more basal and filthy language on TOL. I saw you reading from my other thread posts and had hopes something may have changed

    You have to KNOW love, before love can reach you. Only God can change you, Paul. I cannot so I leave you on ignore.
    I understand you have no scripture to use to support what your told to believe. Thus the emotional response to fill the void! It's OK, I know you don't understand tough love! Love and truth is never easy for those who choose not to see. Just look at CNN

    Sorry but you treat Keypurr like I treat you! get that log out of your eye.... Calling him a cult... CNN to the max!

    Gods speed and love to you,

    Paul

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  • Lon
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    Originally posted by Pierac View Post
    See how easy it was to make you look stupid, in about 1 min of scripture searchs! Give me an hour and I will make you look like a fool!
    Paul
    Matthew 5:46

    I've got you on ignore for statements like this and for some of your more basal and filthy language on TOL. I saw you reading from my other thread posts and had hopes something may have changed

    You have to KNOW love, before love can reach you. Only God can change you, Paul. I cannot so I leave you on ignore.

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  • Pierac
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    Originally posted by 7djengo7 View Post
    What (if anything) do you imagine you mean when you say "Jesus has a GOD"?

    Where, in the Bible, do we read, "Jesus has a GOD"? That's right: nowhere.
    Really?

    Allow me to show you!!!


    Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

    See how easy it was to make you look stupid, in about 1 min of scripture searchs! Give me an hour and I will make you look like a fool!


    Paul

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  • Pierac
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    Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Christ on a White Horse
    Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. - Revelation 19:11-16 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...6&version=NKJV

    The Word of God is a Person, not a thing or idea.
    Thank you for making my point! The logos can not be both 2 in one as you suggest! Only one has the plan! The other follows like... Jesus said he did!!! SOooo … Do you want me to post Jesus saying such so to make you look the fool? Are you willing to stop posting like you know what your talking about? Do You even know of scripture Showing Jesus has a GOD... and One whom tells him what to say and speak!

    BTY read Rev chap 5... there is only one God and one man worthy to approach that God! The Lamb... not GOD! BUT The lamb OF God!

    Yet you would already know this if you understood Rev chapter 1!

    Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him

    Who gave him??? Silly child you still follow the teaching of men! When will you actually believe what you read in scripture???

    Please keep posting so I can show others how you fail To see Jesus has a GOD!!!

    Rev 3:12 'He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name.

    FOR ALL WHOM ARE CONFUSED>>>

    You can not Be God... and then claim to have one... thus why so many fail in understanding the one true God!

    Joh 5:24 "I tell you the solemn truth,the one who hears my message and believes the one who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned, but has crossed over from death to life.

    Joh 4:23 But a time is coming — and now is here — when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such people to be his worshipers.


    Joh 17:3 "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

    Thus eternal life!!! for all whom see...


    SO... Silly child! This is not what you have been told to believe in your church... Right!! But what Jesus says to believe in scripture! Thus your path is to learn the truth... Or stay with the person teaching is just as stupid as you are! Your call!

    Joh 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

    Believe in the GOD of Jesus

    Paul

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  • Lon
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    Originally posted by Keypurr View Post


    Lon it is not I that is displaying blowhard ignorance, look in your mirror.


    You are not showing any one here your Christian faith today. Your unable to define what an image is so you spout off with your garbage. Your still on your Polo Pony Lon. Enjoy this life, it might be the only life you get.
    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    You do not seem to be a spiritual person Lon
    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    BR you do not know truth.

    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    ... scripture [JudgeRightly] can not understand.
    Originally posted by Keypurr View Post


    ... not I that is displaying blowhard ...


    ...not showing... Christian faith today. You[']r[e] unable...Lon. Enjoy this life, it might be the only life you get.
    EVERY cult tells me they are going to heaven and I'm not. EVERY LAST ONE! You ALL can't be right! So weird. Such a tragic flimsy arrow in your arsenal. What for? Simply to try to have "God on MY side!" You are into yourself more than my Savior, God. Sad days. When is the last time I tried to make you believe you were going to the fires of hell? NICE attack here, Bob. Are you proud? What did The Lord Jesus Christ say to the Sons of Thunder for wanting to call down fire? Luke 9:54-55
    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    ...I never attempted to offend folks... they are just not educated in theology

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  • 7djengo7
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    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    There is only ONE GOD and Jesus has a God.

    Think

    1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
    Again, so far, you've not answered the questions:
    • What (if anything) do you imagine you mean when you say "Jesus has a God"?
    • Where, in the Bible, do we read, "Jesus has a God"?


    To simply repeat your mantra, "Jesus has a God", is to fail to answer one and/or both of these questions.

    To quote 1 Corinthians 8:6 is to give one of many, many, many good answers--TO A DIFFERENT QUESTION THAN THE QUESTION I ASKED:

    Q. Where, in the Bible, do we NOT read, "Jesus has a God"?
    A. We do NOT read, "Jesus has a God", in 1 Corinthians 8:6.

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  • nikolai_42
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    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    I have spent a lifetime studying these verses and I can see that you didn't. You didn't read mine also.
    Jesus was not the Son at the creation. Suggest you look at "men made in the image of God', and the "express image of God". Jesus was Born, Christ the Miltha was SENT to dwell in the body prepared for it.

    A study might be worth your time.
    My only purpose for posting what I did was to respond to your contention that an IMAGE (by definition) is a creation. You are saying that Jesus is/was the express IMAGE of the Father and because an IMAGE must be a creation, therefore Jesus is a creation. You cited Col 1:15 and I used the same passage (adding the surrounding context) and John 1 to show that your restriction doesn't necessarily hold. John 1:14 says the Word was made flesh. There is no division between Jesus and the Word. The flesh didn't pre-exist, but to divide his flesh from who He was is foolish. Peter said He was the Christ - the Son of the Living God. He made no addendum saying His flesh wasn't that Son. And Jesus alluded to it directly, gave it importance, and says it was from heaven :

    I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
    The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
    Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
    Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
    For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
    He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
    As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
    This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

    John 6:51-58

    His flesh was not separated from Him. It was vitally connected to Jesus as the eternal Son of God.

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by keypurr View Post
    BR you do not know truth.

    The KJV is not a perfect translation.
    Please provide us all with "the perfect translation".

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