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  • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Actually it's more a matter of when.




    You and a friend go out to the salt flats.

    Have your friend get in an automobile.

    Check the odometer.

    Call him or her on your cell phone.

    Have them drive to the point you no longer see them and stop.

    Ask them what the odometer says.

    Subtract the starting point miles from the new reading and you will have your answer.
    So, about 3 miles, at sea level, then, right?

    So, then If the sun is 1000 times farther away than that, and the stars even farther, how come we can see them? If the farthest our eyes can see is only 3 miles, how do we see objects that are much, much farther away?

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    • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
      So, about 3 miles, at sea level, then, right?

      So, then If the sun is 1000 times farther away than that, and the stars even farther, how come we can see them? If the farthest our eyes can see is only 3 miles, how do we see objects that are much, much farther away?
      Are you now asking what is the farthest you can see?

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      • Originally posted by Knight View Post
        This is a completely wrong diagram of what a vanishing point it.

        In the world of perspective a vanishing point is exactly what it says it is. A vanishing point. Items become so small in the distance that they "vanish". However, while an item that is parallel to another item might appear to "vanish" it would never cross over the other item. Train tracks might appear to converge but they will never cross each other. Just as the sun cannot cross the horizon line if it's circling parallel to the flat earth surface.

        Your diagram is incorrect. Whoever made it has zero knowledge of perspective.

        The reason the sun crosses the horizon line is because the earth is a sphere and it is spinning. As it spins the curvature of the earth covers the sun from our point of view. But people to the west of me still can see the sun (at least until it set s for them).

        Dave watch this time lapse and be honest with yourself.

        Do you honestly believe the sun is disappearing due to the fact it's getting too far away?? And if so... why doesn't the sun "vanish" all at once?? Who does it vanish as if it's goin under the horizon line?
        Just watch one of the video on perspective that I posted or continue to hide your head in the sand of heliocentrism.

        I know with absolute certainty that I look straight ahead at the horizon which is only possible on a plane.

        I know with absolute certainty that all ships and landscapes, that are supposed to be over the curve, are perpendicular to the horizon which is only possible on a flat plane.

        I know with absolute certainty that the ground will hide what moves beyond the horizon line.

        These are absolute truths. I watched your video and it has perspective written all over it.

        --Dave
        www.dynamicfreetheism.com
        The only view of ultimate reality that provides
        rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
        The only view that proves the existence and explains
        the nature of God.

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        • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
          Are you now asking what is the farthest you can see?
          That's what I've BEEN ASKING, you dummy.

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          • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
            Are you now asking what is the farthest you can see?


            Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
            That's what I've BEEN ASKING, you dummy.


            Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
            What's the farthest possible view distance?

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            • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
              Romans 10:8
              8But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim:
              Okay. But what makes you think you can't see something that is 93,000,000 miles away?
              Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)

              But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

              What are my fruits today?

              Cityboy With Horses A blog about what happens when you say, "I Promise"

              "Moral standards" are a lot like lighthouses: they exist to help us stay on course as we sail through life. But we have to steer BY them, but not directly AT them. Lest we end up marooned on the shoals of perpetual self-righteousness.

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              • Originally posted by CabinetMaker View Post
                Okay. But what makes you think you can't see something that is 93,000,000 miles away?
                Can't see what's not there.

                Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
                Perspective is hard to comprehend for those who think they can see something 93 million miles away.
                Last edited by 1Mind1Spirit; April 3rd, 2018, 08:58 PM.

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                • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
                  Can't see what's not there.
                  The Sun isn't there? That's odd. I took a nice walk in the sunshine today!
                  Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)

                  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

                  What are my fruits today?

                  Cityboy With Horses A blog about what happens when you say, "I Promise"

                  "Moral standards" are a lot like lighthouses: they exist to help us stay on course as we sail through life. But we have to steer BY them, but not directly AT them. Lest we end up marooned on the shoals of perpetual self-righteousness.

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                  • Originally posted by CabinetMaker View Post
                    The Sun isn't there? That's odd. I took a nice walk in the sunshine today!
                    Oh.

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                    • Originally posted by Clete View Post
                      I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about Christianity. There is no rational defense of any kind that would support what you've described above. If you believe that what you've described above has anything to do with Christianity, you've been lied to or are yourself a liar.

                      You know, I don't think I'll ever understand people like you. Why bother rejecting a religion or other worldview based on what it doesn't teach? I mean, if you're going to reject it why not reject the real thing rather than some version of it that sounds bad enough to make you feel good about having rejected it? Turning something into a monster that bears no resemblance to the real thing in order to justify it's rejection says far more about you than it does anything about what you've rejected. What's the point of such mental back bending? I truly don't get it. I mean, its just so much stupidity. You might as well refuse to drive Dodge trucks because the manufacturer holds two year old babies against their will so as to farm blood from their vanes to use as lubricant in their factories. It isn't at all true but if you're going to just make stuff up so you can reject it then why not just go hog wild?!

                      Clete
                      I didn't realise you reject the Judeo-christian scripture. I can give you the verses if you need to be reminded of what it says.

                      Stuart

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                      • Originally posted by Knight View Post
                        This is a completely wrong diagram of what a vanishing point it.

                        In the world of perspective a vanishing point is exactly what it says it is. A vanishing point. Items become so small in the distance that they "vanish". However, while an item that is parallel to another item might appear to "vanish" it would never cross over the other item. Train tracks might appear to converge but they will never cross each other. Just as the sun cannot cross the horizon line if it's circling parallel to the flat earth surface.

                        Your diagram is incorrect. Whoever made it has zero knowledge of perspective.

                        The reason the sun crosses the horizon line is because the earth is a sphere and it is spinning. As it spins the curvature of the earth covers the sun from our point of view. But people to the west of me still can see the sun (at least until it set s for them).

                        Dave watch this time lapse and be honest with yourself.

                        Do you honestly believe the sun is disappearing due to the fact it's getting too far away?? And if so... why doesn't the sun "vanish" all at once?? Who does it vanish as if it's goin under the horizon line?
                        Not everything vanishes at the vanishing point.

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                        The tops of trees mountains, etc. that are larger/taller in elevation will appear but the base or bottoms will not.

                        The sun will simply have that effect which is why the bottom will be blocked before the top but the sun will continue to move away from us until it disappears entirely.

                        In the pick with with the sun we see the perspective of tracks, clouds and sun, as per prediction of how all three work on a flat plane.

                        --Dave
                        www.dynamicfreetheism.com
                        The only view of ultimate reality that provides
                        rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
                        The only view that proves the existence and explains
                        the nature of God.

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                        • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
                          Are you now asking what is the farthest you can see?
                          Technically, there is no limit to how far we can see. The eye responds to the light that reaches the retina. All it takes is about 5 photons for the eye to see something. It makes no difference how far those photons have traveled to reach your eye.
                          Last edited by CabinetMaker; April 4th, 2018, 08:00 AM.
                          Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)

                          But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

                          What are my fruits today?

                          Cityboy With Horses A blog about what happens when you say, "I Promise"

                          "Moral standards" are a lot like lighthouses: they exist to help us stay on course as we sail through life. But we have to steer BY them, but not directly AT them. Lest we end up marooned on the shoals of perpetual self-righteousness.

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                          • Originally posted by DFT_Dave View Post
                            The sun "appears" to drop below the horizon just as clouds and planes do.

                            You rightly correct Stuu for his incorrect depiction of Christianity but then you incorrectly depict perspective.

                            Your flat earth understanding is no better than Stuu understanding of Christianity.

                            --Dave
                            Quit lying Dave.
                            All of my ancestors are human.
                            Originally posted by Squeaky
                            That explains why your an idiot.
                            Originally posted by God's Truth
                            Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                            Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                            (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                            1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                            (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                            Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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                            • Originally posted by DFT_Dave View Post
                              Not everything vanishes at the vanishing point.

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                              The tops of trees mountains, etc. that are larger/taller in elevation will appear but the base or bottoms will not.

                              The sun will simply have that effect which is why the bottom will be blocked before the top but the sun will continue to move away from us until it disappears entirely.

                              In the pick with with the sun we see the perspective of tracks, clouds and sun, as per prediction of how all three work on a flat plane.

                              --Dave
                              What you say here is simply not possible on a flat Earth. It is impossible for anything to disappear behind the horizon on a flat Earth. Perspective dose not allow for that. According to perspective, something just gets smaller and smaller until in vanishes. Why don't the sun and moon ever change size as they get close to the horizon?
                              Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)

                              But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

                              What are my fruits today?

                              Cityboy With Horses A blog about what happens when you say, "I Promise"

                              "Moral standards" are a lot like lighthouses: they exist to help us stay on course as we sail through life. But we have to steer BY them, but not directly AT them. Lest we end up marooned on the shoals of perpetual self-righteousness.

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                              • Originally posted by CabinetMaker View Post
                                What you say here is simply not possible on a flat Earth. It is impossible for anything to disappear behind the horizon on a flat Earth. Perspective dose not allow for that. According to perspective, something just gets smaller and smaller until in vanishes. Why don't the sun and moon ever change size as they get close to the horizon?
                                Because the sun does not circle around above a flat earth.
                                All of my ancestors are human.
                                Originally posted by Squeaky
                                That explains why your an idiot.
                                Originally posted by God's Truth
                                Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                                Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                                (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                                1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                                (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                                Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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