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  • Robert Pate
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    Paul wrote, "The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation" Romans 1:16. He didn't say that predestination or rehabilitation of man's fallen nature was the power of God unto salvation. What is the power of God unto salvation? The power of God is what Jesus did to reconcile us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. And what did Jesus do to accomplish that? Listen carefully because you may never hear this again. In our name and on our behalf Jesus offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to God's Holy Law. It was his life that was lived for our justification, Romans 3:26. That was not enough, something had to be done about our sins and the sins of the whole world. Jesus in our name and on our behalf atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus we have been made perfect and complete in him, Colossians 2:10. God now sees all that believe in Jesus as perfect and complete in his Son Jesus Christ. No predestination, rehabilitation or religion needed.

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  • Robert Pate
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    Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    We believe that Christ died to save all mankind, so that all who believe in Him could be saved, but that only those who believe will be saved.

    A person has to believe to receive the gift of salvation. If that person, who has the choices of [believe] and [don't believe], and chooses the latter, then that person will not be saved. If the person chooses the former, then that person will be saved. God saves those who believe. He does not save those who don't believe.
    Right.

    The Holy Spirit calls all to come to Christ and be saved. But many harden their hearts and the Holy Spirit gives up on them.

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  • JudgeRightly
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    You believe that sinners Christ died for, shed His Blood for are unredeemed. Right ?
    We believe that Christ died to save all mankind, so that all who believe in Him could be saved, but that only those who believe will be saved.

    A person has to believe to receive the gift of salvation. If that person, who has the choices of [believe] and [don't believe], and chooses the latter, then that person will not be saved. If the person chooses the former, then that person will be saved. God saves those who believe. He does not save those who don't believe.

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  • beloved57
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    Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
    What you, and many others, fail to see is that redemption requires FAITH IN HIS BLOOD.
    Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

    You cannot separate the efficacy of the blood from FAITH.
    Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

    Only then do we have redemption through His blood.
    Ephesians 1:7
    In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
    You believe that sinners Christ died for, shed His Blood for are unredeemed. Right ?

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  • beloved57
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    Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
    Reconciled by His death....saved by His life.
    Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
    You teach and believe that sinners Christ died for are lost anyways, right ?

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  • glorydaz
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    Nothing is worser to the Name of Christ than teaching as you and many others do, that Christ's death failed to redeem, save all for whom He died, shed His precious Blood for !
    What you, and many others, fail to see is that redemption requires FAITH IN HIS BLOOD.
    Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

    You cannot separate the efficacy of the blood from FAITH.
    Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

    Only then do we have redemption through His blood.
    Ephesians 1:7
    In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

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  • glorydaz
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    You deny the Saving efficacy of Christ's Death. You teach men He tasted Death for perish anyway !
    Reconciled by His death....saved by His life.
    Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

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  • JudgeRightly
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    You deny the Saving efficacy of Christ's Death. You teach men He tasted Death for perish anyway !
    Did Christ die for unbelievers or for believers?

    If you answer believers, how does that make it impossible for those who are unbelievers to believe?

    Also, whom does God want to save?

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  • JudgeRightly
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    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    They didn't repent of their sins, they kept sinning, like you say you do.
    Do you sin?

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  • beloved57
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    Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Here it is again. Right in your blind face.

    "That he by the grace of God should taste death for EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.
    You deny the Saving efficacy of Christ's Death. You teach men He tasted Death for perish anyway !

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  • Robert Pate
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    Nothing is worser to the Name of Christ than teaching as you and many others do, that Christ's death failed to redeem, save all for whom He died, shed His precious Blood for !

    Here it is again. Right in your blind face.

    "That he by the grace of God should taste death for EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.

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  • beloved57
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    Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
    If that were true everyone would be saved because Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2 also 1 John 4:14, plus many other scriptures.

    Oh, I forgot, you don't believe the Bible.
    Nothing is worser to the Name of Christ than teaching as you and many others do, that Christ's death failed to redeem, save all for whom He died, shed His precious Blood for !

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  • Robert Pate
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    How can you be a believer in Christ when you dont believe His Blood saves them He died for ?


    If that were true everyone would be saved because Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2 also 1 John 4:14, plus many other scriptures.

    Oh, I forgot, you don't believe the Bible.

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  • beloved57
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    Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Christ died for you and you are lost.

    Salvation is a free gift from God that must be received by faith. That leaves you out.
    How can you be a believer in Christ when you dont believe His Blood saves them He died for ?

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  • Robert Pate
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    How can u believe in Christ when u teach sinners He died for are lost?
    Christ died for you and you are lost.

    Salvation is a free gift from God that must be received by faith. That leaves you out.

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