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  • Matthew 18


    A Brother who Sins

    (Deuteronomy 19:15-21)

    15Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. 18Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.


    Jesus Appears to His Disciples

    John 20:19 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.

    21Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”



    You need to get it out of your head that Peter was the only one.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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    • Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
      ...and Jesus placed Peter in charge, or are you saying Jesus does not have the authority to do that.

      ...and Peter placed Linus in charge, and....etc etc
      The Bible forbids favoritism over the Apostles.

      Read these scriptures, you will see that Paul even mentions Peter, otherwise known as Simon, and says not to say I follow Simon/Peter as if it means something special.


      1 Corinthians 1:11-12 My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ." 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

      1 Corinthians 3:1Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly—mere infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. 3You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere men? 4For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere men?

      5What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. 6I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8The man who plants and the man who waters have one purpose, and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. 9For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building.

      1 Corinthians 3:18 Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness“; 20and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.” 21So then, no more boasting about men! All things are yours, 22whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours, 23and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God.

      1 Corinthians 4:6 Now brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.
      Oh how I love the Word of God!

      Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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      • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
        The Bible forbids favoritism over the Apostles........
        Well that is obviously a bald faced lie. You pervert the scriptures to suit your agenda


        There is ample evidence in the New Testament that Peter was first in authority among the apostles. Whenever they were named, Peter headed the list (Matt. 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13); sometimes the apostles were referred to as "Peter and those who were with him" (Luke 9:32). Peter was the one who generally spoke for the apostles (Matt. 18:21, Mark 8:29, Luke 12:41, John 6:68-69), and he figured in many of the most dramatic scenes (Matt. 14:28-32, Matt. 17:24-27, Mark 10:23-28). On Pentecost it was Peter who first preached to the crowds (Acts 2:14-40), and he worked the first healing in the Church age (Acts 3:6-7). It is Peter’s faith that will strengthen his brethren (Luke 22:32) and Peter is given Christ’s flock to shepherd (John 21:17). An angel was sent to announce the resurrection to Peter (Mark 16:7), and the risen Christ first appeared to Peter (Luke 24:34). He headed the meeting that elected Matthias to replace Judas (Acts 1:13-26), and he received the first converts (Acts 2:41). He inflicted the first punishment (Acts 5:1-11), and excommunicated the first heretic (Acts 8:18-23). He led the first council in Jerusalem (Acts 15), and announced the first dogmatic decision (Acts 15:7-11). It was to Peter that the revelation came that Gentiles were to be baptized and accepted as Christians (Acts 10:46-48).

        Peter the Rock

        Peter’s preeminent position among the apostles was symbolized at the very beginning of his relationship with Christ. At their first meeting, Christ told Simon that his name would thereafter be Peter, which translates as "Rock" (John 1:42). The startling thing was that—aside from the single time that Abraham is called a "rock" (Hebrew: Tsur; Aramaic: Kepha) in Isaiah 51:1-2—in the Old Testament only God was called a rock. The word rock was not used as a proper name in the ancient world. If you were to turn to a companion and say, "From now on your name is Asparagus," people would wonder: Why Asparagus? What is the meaning of it? What does it signify? Indeed, why call Simon the fisherman "Rock"? Christ was not given to meaningless gestures, and neither were the Jews as a whole when it came to names. Giving a new name meant that the status of the person was changed, as when Abram’s name was changed to Abraham (Gen.17:5), Jacob’s to Israel (Gen. 32:28), Eliakim’s to Joakim (2 Kgs. 23:34), or the names of the four Hebrew youths—Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah to Belteshazzar, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego (Dan. 1:6-7). But no Jew had ever been called "Rock." The Jews would give other names taken from nature, such as Deborah ("bee," Gen. 35:8), and Rachel ("ewe," Gen. 29:16), but never "Rock." In the New Testament James and John were nicknamed Boanerges, meaning "Sons of Thunder," by Christ, but that was never regularly used in place of their original names, and it certainly was not given as a new name. But in the case of Simon-bar-Jonah, his new name Kephas (Greek: Petros) definitely replaced the old.


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        • Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
          Well that is obviously a bald faced lie. You pervert the scriptures to suit your agenda
          The scriptures are clear about favoritism forbidden.
          Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post

          There is ample evidence in the New Testament that Peter was first in authority among the apostles. Whenever they were named, Peter headed the list (Matt. 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13); sometimes the apostles were referred to as "Peter and those who were with him" (Luke 9:32). Peter was the one who generally spoke for the apostles (Matt. 18:21, Mark 8:29, Luke 12:41, John 6:68-69), and he figured in many of the most dramatic scenes (Matt. 14:28-32, Matt. 17:24-27, Mark 10:23-28). On Pentecost it was Peter who first preached to the crowds (Acts 2:14-40), and he worked the first healing in the Church age (Acts 3:6-7). It is Peter’s faith that will strengthen his brethren (Luke 22:32) and Peter is given Christ’s flock to shepherd (John 21:17).
          It was Peter's faith that failed and had to be reinstated.

          I am not putting down Peter, I am just correcting your error.
          Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
          An angel was sent to announce the resurrection to Peter (Mark 16:7), and the risen Christ first appeared to Peter (Luke 24:34). He headed the meeting that elected Matthias to replace Judas (Acts 1:13-26), and he received the first converts (Acts 2:41). He inflicted the first punishment (Acts 5:1-11), and excommunicated the first heretic (Acts 8:18-23). He led the first council in Jerusalem (Acts 15), and announced the first dogmatic decision (Acts 15:7-11). It was to Peter that the revelation came that Gentiles were to be baptized and accepted as Christians (Acts 10:46-48).
          Just like you were told not to do, but you do it anyway.

          Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
          Peter the Rock

          Peter’s preeminent position among the apostles was symbolized at the very beginning of his relationship with Christ. At their first meeting, Christ told Simon that his name would thereafter be Peter, which translates as "Rock" (John 1:42). The startling thing was that—aside from the single time that Abraham is called a "rock" (Hebrew: Tsur; Aramaic: Kepha) in Isaiah 51:1-2—in the Old Testament only God was called a rock. The word rock was not used as a proper name in the ancient world. If you were to turn to a companion and say, "From now on your name is Asparagus," people would wonder: Why Asparagus? What is the meaning of it? What does it signify? Indeed, why call Simon the fisherman "Rock"?
          The 'rock' is about Jesus, God's Truth. Peter had a little of it, and it was on God's Truth that Jesus would build his church.

          Peter did not go to hell where the gates there could not keep him; and, it is not the catholic church.

          Jesus is the church, and Jesus went to hell after dying on the cross, and the gates of hell could not keep him there.

          Matthew 16:13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” 14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” 17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

          After Jesus was crucified, he preached to those who were dead, he preached to the spirits in prison/hell, the spirits of those who had died and disobeyed long ago (see 1 Peter 3:18-19).

          The gates of Hell could not keep Jesus there. It is only Jesus' body who did not see decay; not the many dead "Saints" the catholic popes dig up and claim those decayed bodies are not what they seem.

          Psalm 26:10 because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead, nor will you let your faithful one see decay.

          That is only about Jesus. That is not about Peter or anyone but Jesus.

          Acts 13:35
          So also, He says in another Psalm: 'You will not let your Holy One see decay.'

          Psalm 49:9
          That he should live on eternally, That he should not undergo decay.

          Colossians 1:24
          Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions for the sake of His body, which is the church.

          Ephesians 1:22 And God put everything under His feet and made Him head over everything for the church, 23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

          Ephesians 5:30
          For we are members of His body.
          Oh how I love the Word of God!

          Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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          • ....snore....

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            • Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
              ....snore....
              Romans 13:11 And do this, understanding the present time: The hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed.

              Ephesians 5:14
              So it is said: "Wake up, O sleeper, rise up from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."

              1 Thessalonians 5:6
              So then, let us not sleep as the others do, but let us remain awake and sober.
              Oh how I love the Word of God!

              Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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              • Originally posted by chrysostom View Post
                -18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter
                -19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven
                -peter got the keys
                -and
                -the power to bind and loose
                -that means he was in charge
                -someone must be in charge
                -that should be clear
                Good quote.

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                • Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post

                  Good quote.
                  There are no more apostles since the apostles. The foundation has been laid a long time ago. Jesus is in charge.
                  Oh how I love the Word of God!

                  Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                  • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

                    There are no more apostles since the apostles. The foundation has been laid a long time ago. Jesus is in charge.
                    The Bible states that they appointed bishops. Yes Jesus is in charge, and he works through the pope and the bishops.

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                    • Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post

                      The Bible states that they appointed bishops. Yes Jesus is in charge, and he works through the pope and the bishops.
                      There are no more bishops and never were popes.
                      Oh how I love the Word of God!

                      Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                      • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

                        There are no more bishops and never were popes.
                        Not true.

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                        • Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post

                          Not true.
                          Show where the Bible says there will be popes.
                          Oh how I love the Word of God!

                          Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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