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  • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    You Bible "correctors" are a dime a dozen.
    Hey , Google it.

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    • Originally posted by Lon View Post
      God cannot. 2 Timothy 2:13 (use scriptures or people will not know where to go to find your assertions).


      No. Frankly, you can't.


      Er, no, unless you have a multiple personality disorder and that is still one person trying to live with him/herself.

      Exactly, thus for God John 1:1 and for you


      I appreciate someone who wrestles with God: Exodus 25:8 Acts 7:48

      My thoughts: Yes God is with us. John 1:14 Isaiah 7:14
      Trinity doctrine: Less than 300 years after the Bible was completed, a Trinitarian writer added to 1 John 5:7 the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” That statement did not appear in the original text. “From the sixth century onwards,” notes Bible scholar Bruce Metzger, those words were “found more and more frequently in manuscripts of the Old Latin and of the [Latin] Vulgate.”

      Divine name: Citing a Jewish superstition as their authority, many Bible translators decided to remove the divine name from the Scriptures. They replaced that name with titles such as “God” or “Lord,” expressions applied in the Bible not only to the Creator but also to men, objects of false worship, and even the Devil.—John 10:34, 35; 1 Corinthians 8:5, 6;2 Corinthians 4:4. *

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      • Originally posted by Bee1 View Post
        Hey , Google it.
        All Hail Google!

        If it's on the Internet, it must be true.
        All of my ancestors are human.
        Originally posted by Squeaky
        That explains why your an idiot.
        Originally posted by God's Truth
        Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
        Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
        (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

        1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
        (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

        Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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        • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
          All Hail Google!

          If it's on the Internet, it must be true.
          There is no other way to validate or present my point of view. Just say anything with no grounds to support

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          • Originally posted by Bee1 View Post
            Trinity doctrine: Less than 300 years after the Bible was completed, a Trinitarian writer added to 1 John 5:7 the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” That statement did not appear in the original text. “From the sixth century onwards,” notes Bible scholar Bruce Metzger, those words were “found more and more frequently in manuscripts of the Old Latin and of the [Latin] Vulgate.”
            C-o-n-j-e-c-t-u-r-e Metzger is a smart man but he is not always a 'right' man. On this, he is taking a particular line of thought: That the bible was translated linearly. It was not, it was copied and circulated more like a web in all directions. Conjecture is, what it is, but it is NEVER gospel (truth unquestioned).

            Originally posted by Bee1 View Post
            Divine name: Citing a Jewish superstition as their authority, many Bible translators decided to remove the divine name from the Scriptures. They replaced that name with titles such as “God” or “Lord,” expressions applied in the Bible not only to the Creator but also to men, objects of false worship, and even the Devil.—John 10:34, 35; 1 Corinthians 8:5, 6;2 Corinthians 4:4. *
            More Jewish than KJV (English). Even G-d is not written by them. In the front of your KJV, 'how' they translated Hebrew names into English, are 1) consistent and 2) given.
            My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
            Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
            Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
            Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
            No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
            Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

            ? Yep

            Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

            ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

            Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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            • Originally posted by Bee1 View Post
              There is no other way to validate or present my point of view. Just say anything with no grounds to support
              I'm going to just go ahead and believe the Bible.
              All of my ancestors are human.
              Originally posted by Squeaky
              That explains why your an idiot.
              Originally posted by God's Truth
              Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
              Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
              (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

              1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
              (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

              Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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              • Originally posted by Lon View Post
                Nor this: is dealing with scriptures. Show 'how' it was 1) A Trinitarian slant instead of the VERY plain reading of scripture. Show how it is not. 2) SEE if the Apostle Paul did NOT say word for word, that 'we should not tempt Christ' as they did in Israel. I really don't believe you have a prayer of contention. How could it possibly be rendered otherwise?
                To me, it looks like YOU are doing the gymnastics. Why would you do that? Why would you NEED to do that? Please engage and show. -Lon
                Paul is telling them not to test Christ the way the father's tempted God.

                Easy peasy, bud.

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                • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
                  Paul is telling them not to test Christ the way the father's tempted God.

                  Easy peasy, bud.
                  YOU are better than this. READ it, 1Mind!


                  1Co 10:9 Nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted Him and were destroyed by serpents. Numbers 21:5

                  How well did you do in English class? Good enough, right? You KNOW what this is saying! You KNOW!
                  My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                  Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                  Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                  Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                  No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                  Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                  ? Yep

                  Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                  ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                  Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                  • Originally posted by Lon View Post
                    YOU are better than this. READ it, 1Mind!


                    1Co 10:9 Nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted Him and were destroyed by serpents. Numbers 21:5

                    How well did you do in English class? Good enough, right? You KNOW what this is saying! You KNOW!
                    I don't hold with the nkjv.

                    In the KJV there is no him after tempted.

                    Many years ago I bought an nkjv because they said all they changed was the thees and thous for easier reading.

                    I found out quickly, they LIED.

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                    • Originally posted by popsthebuilder View Post
                      There is no difference in Christ and the spirit of GOD.
                      Christ was born in a manger.
                      Luke 2:10-17 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. 12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. 13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, 14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. 15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us. 16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. 17 And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.

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                      • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
                        I don't hold with the nkjv.

                        In the KJV there is no him after tempted.
                        You can look this up: 1Corinthians 10:9 μηδὲ ἐκπειράζωμεν τὸν Χριστόν, καθώς καὶ τινες αὐτῶν ἐπείρασαν καὶ ὑπὸ τῶν ὄφεων ἀπώλοντο.

                        αὐτῶν isn't 'necessary' if you understand they tested 'him' (Christ- Χριστόν). See the ending v on both? Means 'He.' I don't mind doubt, 1M1S. I do mind if we (you or I) stick to an idea that scripture doesn't support. Scripture supports this. It is this clear (thank you for addressing the text). -Lon
                        My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                        Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                        Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                        Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                        No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                        Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                        ? Yep

                        Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                        ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                        Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                        • Originally posted by Lon View Post
                          You can look this up: 1Corinthians 10:9 μηδὲ ἐκπειράζωμεν τὸν Χριστόν, καθώς καὶ τινες αὐτῶν ἐπείρασαν καὶ ὑπὸ τῶν ὄφεων ἀπώλοντο.

                          αὐτῶν isn't 'necessary' if you understand they tested 'him' (Christ- Χριστόν). See the ending v on both? Means 'He.' I don't mind doubt, 1M1S. I do mind if we (you or I) stick to an idea that scripture doesn't support. Scripture supports this. It is this clear (thank you for addressing the text). -Lon
                          You're gonna make me start laughing again.

                          Now you would have me believe the nkjv writers are better Greek scholars than the KJV writers.

                          And not able to follow context from verse 5 where it says God was not well pleased.

                          Quit it, man.

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                          • Originally posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post

                            In the KJV there is no him after tempted.
                            Well, what about this in the KJV?
                            1 Corinthians 10:3-5KJV 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

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                            • Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
                              Doesn't Scripture say that He is equal with God the Father?

                              Philippians 2:5-7 King James Version (KJV)

                              5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

                              6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

                              7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
                              Actually the verse is demonstrating the opposite, the context demonstrates that Jesus, although existing in Gods form -that being a spirit form- did not think that he was equal to him. The "existing in Gods form" part of the text is in reference to bodily composition and is NOT talking about nature or Jesus being in the form of deity. This is clear by the context v7 and when looking at the greek word "morphe" (strongs 3444).

                              Also, doing a word study on the greek word harpagmos (strongs 725) also demonstrates Jesus did not already the equality mentioned in the verse.
                              If you cant beat them join them

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                              • Do you believe that Jesus is a god or a man? It is obvious that you do not believe Him to be God.
                                He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                                Jim Elliot

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