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  • Originally posted by Lon View Post
    The last time I tallied these, the number was well over 130 threads against a Trinitarian view.

    After all of them were deleted, it is surprising to see how quickly they are rejuvenated.

    This is not a 'debate the trinity' thread. It is a thread specifically about the number of threads and why they exist, as well as a reference tool.

    1. ECT- A pink egg isn't a blue egg -can't be an egg, & Jesus cannot be God -Oatmeal
    2.A pink egg isn't an egg and Jesus can't be God (2) -Oatmeal Deleted
    3. Jesus isn't God - Elia
    4. Jesus isn't the Messiah - Elia
    5. Jesus can't be Y-H-W-H or he'd be praying to Himself -Elia Deleted--Same topic as Jesus isn't God
    6. There are two gods -October23
    7. Jesus is just a normal man, not God -Cross-Reference
    8. Why can't you see God, but people have seen Jesus Christ? Pink egg isn't a pink egg redux--Oatmeal Deleted--same topic again. Please stick to one thread.
    9. Jesus has a God-Keypurr
    10. A false messiah and an idol -Elia
    11. Not only anti-Trinitarian but anti-Christ as well.
    12. The Trinity is False - Squeeky
    13. Jesus isn't Jehovah -Kingdom rose
    14. Jesus is not God - Lazy
    15. Jesus is not God - Cherubram
    16. Jesus isn't our sin Sacrifice - Caino (UB thread at 680+ pages of useless bandwidth, would like to see it chopped and a new thread started if it must)
    17. Jesus isn't God, just His right-hand - Cherubram
    18. Jesus isn't the Alpha and Omega - Cherubram
    19. Jesus is unique, but not God - cgavaria
    20. Jesus is not God, no matter what scripture says - cgavaria
    21. Jesus is just 'a' god - Squeeky
    22. Is Jesus God? -Versais (Hinduism) I'd leave this one as legitimate and needed against polytheism
    23. Jesus is Created - Squeeky
    24. Jesus is Created - cgavaria
    25. Jesus is not Messiah - Elia
    26. The Trinity is False -Squeaky
    27. Jesus is not equal with God - Cherubram
    28. Jesus is not God -Daqq
    29. Jesus is not God - kingdomrose
    30. Jesus isn't perfect so not God - Stephencbh
    31. Jesus is not God (2) - Kingdomrose
    32. God is not Triune - Kingdomrose
    33. YHWH is not Triune -Kingdomrose (Sacred namer as well )
    34. The Trinity is not true -Kingdomrose
    35. Jesus Is not God -Beammeup
    36. Arian commercial - Lazy Afternoon
    37. Jesus is not God - Kingdomrose
    38. Jesus is not God - Oatmeal
    39. Trinitarians are Pharisees - Kingdomrose
    40. Trinitarians are not Saved - Squeeky
    41. Jesus is not God - Oatmeal
    42. The Trinity is devil doctrine - Squeeky
    43. Jesus is not the Word - Squeeky
    44. Jesus is not I AM - Squeeky
    45. Jesus is not God - Squeeky
    46. Jesus cannot be God - Cherubram
    47. Not Meshak this time: Mainstream isn't Christian - Cherubram
    50. About half of all of Squeeky's threads if not all.
    51. God isn't triune - tigger 2
    52.

    Mod Note: There gets to be too many of these threads, they will be deleted. Duplicate topics will be deleted.


    Johnny Carson did an act where he put an envelope with a question to his head and knew the answer, then opened the envelope and read the question.

    This list of names is the Answer.

    What is the question?


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    • Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post



      Johnny Carson did an act where he put an envelope with a question to his head and knew the answer, then opened the envelope and read the question.

      This list of names is the Answer.

      What is the question?


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      Who might actually be takind scripture seriously?
      "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

      "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

      Pro scripture = Protestant

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      • Originally posted by Lon View Post
        The last time I tallied these, the number was well over 130 threads against a Trinitarian view.

        After all of them were deleted, it is surprising to see how quickly they are rejuvenated.

        This is not a 'debate the trinity' thread. It is a thread specifically about the number of threads and why they exist, as well as a reference tool.

        1. ECT- A pink egg isn't a blue egg -can't be an egg, & Jesus cannot be God -Oatmeal
        2.A pink egg isn't an egg and Jesus can't be God (2) -Oatmeal Deleted
        3. Jesus isn't God - Elia
        4. Jesus isn't the Messiah - Elia
        5. Jesus can't be Y-H-W-H or he'd be praying to Himself -Elia Deleted--Same topic as Jesus isn't God
        6. There are two gods -October23
        7. Jesus is just a normal man, not God -Cross-Reference
        8. Why can't you see God, but people have seen Jesus Christ? Pink egg isn't a pink egg redux--Oatmeal Deleted--same topic again. Please stick to one thread.
        9. Jesus has a God-Keypurr
        10. A false messiah and an idol -Elia
        11. Not only anti-Trinitarian but anti-Christ as well.
        12. The Trinity is False - Squeeky
        13. Jesus isn't Jehovah -Kingdom rose
        14. Jesus is not God - Lazy
        15. Jesus is not God - Cherubram
        16. Jesus isn't our sin Sacrifice - Caino (UB thread at 680+ pages of useless bandwidth, would like to see it chopped and a new thread started if it must)
        17. Jesus isn't God, just His right-hand - Cherubram
        18. Jesus isn't the Alpha and Omega - Cherubram
        19. Jesus is unique, but not God - cgavaria
        20. Jesus is not God, no matter what scripture says - cgavaria
        21. Jesus is just 'a' god - Squeeky
        22. Is Jesus God? -Versais (Hinduism) I'd leave this one as legitimate and needed against polytheism
        23. Jesus is Created - Squeeky
        24. Jesus is Created - cgavaria
        25. Jesus is not Messiah - Elia
        26. The Trinity is False -Squeaky
        27. Jesus is not equal with God - Cherubram
        28. Jesus is not God -Daqq
        29. Jesus is not God - kingdomrose
        30. Jesus isn't perfect so not God - Stephencbh
        31. Jesus is not God (2) - Kingdomrose
        32. God is not Triune - Kingdomrose
        33. YHWH is not Triune -Kingdomrose (Sacred namer as well )
        34. The Trinity is not true -Kingdomrose
        35. Jesus Is not God -Beammeup
        36. Arian commercial - Lazy Afternoon
        37. Jesus is not God - Kingdomrose
        38. Jesus is not God - Oatmeal
        39. Trinitarians are Pharisees - Kingdomrose
        40. Trinitarians are not Saved - Squeeky
        41. Jesus is not God - Oatmeal
        42. The Trinity is devil doctrine - Squeeky
        43. Jesus is not the Word - Squeeky
        44. Jesus is not I AM - Squeeky
        45. Jesus is not God - Squeeky
        46. Jesus cannot be God - Cherubram
        47. Not Meshak this time: Mainstream isn't Christian - Cherubram
        50. About half of all of Squeeky's threads if not all.
        51. God isn't triune - tigger 2
        52.

        Mod Note: There gets to be too many of these threads, they will be deleted. Duplicate topics will be deleted.
        It would be revealing to see those quotes you falsely attribute to me.

        Your false accusations reveal your "scriptural study"methodology
        "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

        "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

        Pro scripture = Protestant

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        • The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is plainly taught in the story of Jesus' baptism. There, we see Jesus, the Holy Spirit, & God The Father all manifest, physically separate from one another.

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          • Hello all. Sorry for just jumping in with some thoughts instead of carrying on a dialogue already started. I have not visited this site in a long time but love this topic. First, I do not think a person seeking salvation has to understand how the ONE God can have a trinity type of nature. Sinners seek the suffering Jesus because the Father wants mankind to understand what he has accomplished and endured for us. Yet, it is fascinating to learn about God's nature and according to the mention of The Spirit, The Son, and The Father there is reason for a mature Christian to seek a better understanding. This is what I've concluded based on my studies. I had already decided to make Jesus my Lord; so, I wanted to know the Father better. Once I realized who the Father was things started popping. Gen. 1 told me the ONE God was Spirit in the beginning but some where between moving as a Spirit and the end of Gen.1 The LORD began his work. Some where between the end of Gen.1 and the start of Gen. 2 The LORD appeared. Now most believers accept that The LORD he is God ... The Spirit and He are ONE. So, what's the difference between God the Spirit Gen. 1 and The LORD God who worked on the 7th Day? There is only one thing! The Spirit of God appeared. How? God the Spirit created an image to represent himself. When the LORD God came to the Garden to word it was a hands on and face to face relationship. This use of an image has everything to do with understanding exactly who the Son is. If Light was involved in Genesis 1 bringing the potential of visibility into our world then I have concluded that God's image was somehow manifested in and by THAT LIGHT. I have found scripture that reassures me I am correct. If the Son was identified as being THAT LIGHT who had come into the world but seen in flesh and therefore was not recognizable as THAT consuming LIGHT then we have a great connection here between the Father and the Son. It should make sense to you now that the appearance of the fleshly Son looked like the image of his Father even though the Son was missing the heavenly glory. Now watch this verse. Jesus said an oral prayer and one must assume he wanted his disciples to hear it and comprehend something. John 17:4-5 [my inserts appear] I [the Son] have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify you me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. IOW, From the beginning God had determined to share his glorious image with his living Word who would one day come on earth speaking face to face in a lesser glory of flesh. In fact fact the future Messiah was with God and was God in the form of the WORD from the beginning. In fact the Word and the Father shared the manifested presence God created. God is ONE. Just like Jesus said when you have seen me you have seen the Father. I think the Father could have said when you have seen me you have seen my Son. God the Spirit first introduced himself as The presence of the LORD, later referred to as the Father. Next he introduce himself as our fleshly Lord Jesus. Lastly he has given us the promise of his Holy Spirit being in us if we choose to honor his suffering as experienced through his association with the Son of flesh. God is ONE even while being the invisible Spirit, the visible LORD, and fleshly Savior. Isaiah 43:11 I[God the Spirit], even I, am the [manifested and visible] LORD; and beside me [who is the Spirit and the manifested LORD] there is no [possible] Savior. IOW it is God was is our Savior through Christ. All three of these are the ONE same God. The only difference that comes into play is that God manifested an image for himself and USED IT to accomplish his works among men and FOR MEN. One day our risen and glorified Lord Jesus will personally introduce us to the Father. We will not be harmed by the full Glory of the Father, for as saints we will have been transformed from mortal flesh to immortality. My rendition of I Timothy 6:11 [Godly men flea evil and follow after righteousness etc.] 12 Fight with faith and lay hold of eternal life to which you are called.] 13 We are charged before God and Christ]14 to keep this commandment until our Lord Jesus appears.]15 When in his [risen] times he shall show [you] who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 [He will show you] Who only hath immortality, dwelling in[side] THE LIGHT which no [mortal] man hath seen, nor can see; [Our risen Lord will show us] to whom be[longs] honor and power everlasting. Amen. IOW, our Risen Lord will introduce us to the glorious body of heaven which belongs to God and whom we know as The LORD God the Father. We will know him as he knows us. God introduced himself as the Father, the Father introduced us to the coming Son, and the Son did and will introduce us directly to the Father. They are God because our God is ONE.

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            • Originally posted by Ps82 View Post
              Hello all. Sorry for just jumping in with some thoughts instead of carrying on a dialogue already started.
              There are many threads that discuss the nature of God, this one isn't so much about the debate, as discussing why there are so many Antitrinitarian threads on TOL.

              The questions this thread deals with are why this topic is the only thing JW's and Arians want to talk about (One-trick-ponies), why there is a need for so many (virtually all the same), and whether some of them should be purged as incredibly redundant on TOL.
              My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
              Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
              Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
              Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
              No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
              Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

              ? Yep

              Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

              ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

              Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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              • Oh. Excuse me Lon.

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