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    According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

    Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

    Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

    Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to, only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with me while I flesh this out.

    According to the US Census Bureau: as of Oct 30, 2015 @ 05:25 pm EST, the resident population in the United States was approximately 322,063,004 with a death rate of approximately one every 12 seconds; which translates to an average of 7,200 American deaths of all ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.

    According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 5,234 of the current daily death rate of 7,200 per 24 hours are adults. Giving the "many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to 51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,669 American adults transferring to perdition every day: which translates to roughly 111 per hour.

    That's a very conservative estimate as Jesus Christ didn't really specify exact percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think: by the time CBS completes its half hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 55 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld.

    Using the ratio of 2,669 condemned souls per 322,063,004 population: computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently estimated global population of 7,282,560,862 people, would suggest something like 60,352 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld every 24 hours; which translates to approximately 2,515 souls every sixty minutes on the clock.

    That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity in roughly 20 hours and 36 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this morning, then by 02:36 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full to capacity.

    Christmas and New Year's are even worse. A study done of 26 years of death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9% higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths spiking to 12.2% higher.

    Traditional Christianity's hell never closes; no, not at all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global warming, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, outsourcing, high school shootings, terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil pollution, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, gasoline prices, student debt, GMO, trade deficits, protests, Federal debt, factory recalls, overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain, road rage, oil spills, conscious decoupling, ISIS, gay marriage, ObamaCare, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, and/or the California drought.

    If traditional Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that souls never stop cascading into the pits of hell in an endless procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken-processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, In'n'Out Burger, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering and the butchering never stop.
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    Last edited by WeberHome; August 24th, 2019, 07:39 PM.

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    He did not answer the question directly, he told the asker to mind what he himself was about.

    The fact is you cain't help somebody onto the strait road until you yourself are on it. Like John Wesley, as soon as he found the road which leads to life he was out after the MULTITUDE who were on the broad road.

    If the scripture is to be answered as you say how come John saw a multitude in heaven which no man could number?

    According to your stats people can be numbered, but of the redeemed says John, no man could number them.
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    • #3
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      Originally posted by Totton Linnet View Post
      If the scripture is to be answered as you say how come John saw a multitude
      in heaven which no man could number? According to your stats people can
      be numbered, but of the redeemed says John, no man could number
      them.
      †. Rev 7:9 . . I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no
      one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing
      before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes
      and were holding palm branches in their hands.

      A very similar idiom is used in the book of Genesis where God instructed
      Abraham to: "look toward the heavens, and count the stars, if you are able
      to count them." And He said to him, "So shall your descendants be."

      The numbers I posted are not precise statistics; they're just rough hewn
      estimates meant to impress upon viewers that not only are people going to
      hell on a daily basis, but the amount of people going is a lot.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by WeberHome View Post
        According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.
        Is that a problem?

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by jamie View Post
          Is that a problem?
          It's commonly believed that heaven is sort of like the peak of a high
          mountain. All around the periphery of the mountain are numerous roads all
          leading to the top. In other words: no matter which road you take; the
          destination is the same.

          But according to traditional Christianity; there aren't many roads to the top:
          there's only one; all the rest are dead ends, loops, and cul-de-sacs. If
          traditional Christianity is right; then an awful lot of people are facing a very
          unpleasant future. For example, according to my sources, there are
          approximately:

          50 thousand Scientologists
          15 million Mormons
          8.2 million Jehovah's Witnesses
          7.31 million Baha'i
          483.8 million Buddhists
          454.6 million Chinese Folk Religionists
          6.4 million Confucianists
          258.5 million Ethnic Religionists
          935.5 million Hindus
          5.7 million Jains
          1.5 billion Muslims
          1.8 million Orthodox Jews
          64.2 million New Religionists
          2.8 million Shintoists
          24.2 million Sikhs
          13.8 million Spiritists
          8.8 million Taoists
          640 million Non Religious
          138.8 million Atheists

          The grand total of just those categories is 4,569,460,000

          If those figures are in the ball park, and if traditional Christianity is the
          truth; then at the least 63% of the earth's current population of 7.283 billion
          people is on a road to hell; and no doubt some of those are people we know:
          our friends, our loved ones, and our associates.

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          • #6
            According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls
            haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.
            What do you mean by "responsible souls." Those that really are or claim to be so.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WeberHome View Post
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              But according to traditional Christianity; there aren't many roads to the top:
              There are two, the first resurrection and the second resurrection. During this age many are called but few are chosen.

              For example, Paul said, "For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble are called. (1 Corinthians 1:26 NKJV)

              Why are they not called during this age?

              Paul explains that God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty...
              (1 Corinthians 1:27 NKJV)

              The wise and mighty and noble will be in the second resurrection and the Book of Life will then be opened to them.

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by Bradley D View Post
                What do you mean by "responsible souls." Those that really are or claim to
                be so.
                Of age vs underage, adults vs minors, children vs grownups.

                I chose 19 as the cut-off age arbitrarily. It could be even older. For example:
                20 was the age deemed old enough for Israel's males to be mustered for
                war and included in a census (Num 1:2-3).

                When God condemned Yhvh's people to reside an additional forty years in
                the outback for refusing to enter Canaan when He wanted; the cut-off age
                was again 20. (Num 14:27-35)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by WeberHome View Post
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                  Of age vs underage, adults vs minors, children vs grownups.

                  I chose 19 as the cut-off age arbitrarily. It could be even older. For example:
                  20 was the age deemed old enough for Israel's males to be mustered for
                  war and included in a census (Num 1:2-3).

                  When God condemned Yhvh's people to reside an additional forty years in
                  the outback for refusing to enter Canaan when He wanted; the cut-off age
                  was again 20. (Num 14:27-35)

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                  Very good, (imo) too bad no one seems to apply that meaning to dietous, (Matthew 2:16).

                  Originally posted by jamie View Post
                  There are two, the first resurrection and the second resurrection. During this age many are called but few are chosen.
                  Very good, (imo) one out of ten lepers will be cleansed toward becoming whole.
                  But what if every leper has nine lepers with him in the walls of his house?
                  Last edited by daqq; October 31st, 2015, 07:53 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
                    broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
                    small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
                    it.


                    Interesting, since an all-loving god could effortlessly provide just the opposite for his creation.

                    Or is this simply an appeal to one's spiritual exclusivity and pride?

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by quip View Post
                      Interesting, since an all-loving god could effortlessly provide just the
                      opposite for his creation. Or is this simply an appeal to one's spiritual
                      exclusivity and pride?
                      According to 1Tim 4:10 and 1John 2:2, Christ gave his life in order to pave
                      the way to safety for everybody; not just an elite caste. But for some odd
                      reason, which I have never been able to understand, Christ's Father has
                      restricted the benefit to believers only; and according to John 3:18,
                      disbelievers are shut out.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WeberHome View Post
                        ...If traditional Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that souls never stop cascading into the pits of....
                        But perceptions of Jesus can only be interpretations. The gospel writers had their own personal interpretations, as did Paul in the 50s before them.

                        And the diversity and cacophony on TOL is further proof of this fact.

                        We don't always realize that what we call "Christianity" existed in a wide variety of forms and expressions. It was never theologically worked out until the order of the Roman Empire's Constantine in 325 ACE. But even so, every believer becomes what the original Baptists taught:

                        The "priesthood" of every believer.

                        We are (or should be) allowed our own interpretations of the interpretations of the Bible.
                        Things in the world always have to be interpreted through humans, and humankind is diverse.

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                        • #13
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                          †. Matt 13:42 . . there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

                          I was baptized an infant into the Roman Catholic Church; and was eventually
                          enrolled in catechism where I completed First Holy Communion and
                          Confirmation. Although catechism did a good job of instilling within me the
                          reality of hell's eternal fires; it wasn't until I saw a painting by Gustave Doré
                          depicting a scene from Dante Alighieri's Inferno that I realized the degree of
                          despair gripping the minds and hearts of people in hell.

                          People down there know it's permanent; that's what makes hell so much
                          worse than any other source of misery one can possibly imagine. If only they
                          could see a light at the end of the tunnel; but that's just it: there is no end
                          of the tunnel; it's like a Gerbil exercise wheel; within which the little rodents
                          get nowhere.

                          They say hope springs eternal in the human heart. Well; not down there.
                          No; down there hope is futile. The fires are bad enough; but it's the
                          permanence of hell that I would imagine hurts the most.

                          Netherworld Update: 3 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
                          figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 181,056 new
                          arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.

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                          Last edited by WeberHome; November 2nd, 2015, 08:40 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by WeberHome View Post
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                            †. Matt 13:42 . . there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

                            I was baptized an infant into the Roman Catholic Church; and was eventually
                            enrolled in catechism where I completed First Holy Communion and
                            Confirmation. Although catechism did a good job of instilling within me the
                            reality of hell's eternal fires; it wasn't until I saw a painting by Gustave Doré
                            depicting a scene from Dante Alighieri's Inferno that I realized the degree of
                            despair gripping the minds and hearts of people in hell.

                            People down there know it's permanent; that's what makes hell so much
                            worse than any other source of misery one can possibly imagine. If only they
                            could see a light at the end of the tunnel; but that's just it: there is no end
                            of the tunnel; it's like a Gerbil exercise wheel; within which running Gerbils
                            get nowhere.

                            They say hope springs eternal in the human heart. Well; not down there.
                            No; down there hope is futile. The fires are bad enough; but it's the
                            permanence of hell that I would imagine hurts the most.

                            Netherworld Update: 3 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
                            figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 181,056 new
                            arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.

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                            I find you preposterous for thinking that you can calculate how many people go to hell. It's a sick fantasy you must be having. What gives you authority to say how many go to hell each day ? These are all souls of people you're speculating on. Go to the horse races.

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
                              I find you preposterous for thinking that you can calculate how many people
                              go to hell. It's a sick fantasy you must be having. What gives you authority
                              to say how many go to hell each day ? These are all souls of people you're
                              speculating on. Go to the horse races.
                              People are usually comfortable talking about hell just so long as it remains
                              an abstract concept in a bull session. But when someone comes along and
                              puts a face on hell; there's always a percentage that tends to get agitated.

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