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  • #16
    Originally posted by DougE View Post

    Why do you think that Paul is the only apostle that had the mystery fully known revealed to him???

    The mystery was revealed to Paul because that is what is stated by him Ephesians 3:3


    Even Paul says it was revealed to the holy apostles and the prophets---there were prophets and holy apostles before Paul.

    They were apostles at the time Paul was speaking of, not Peter and the twelve

    You are mixed up, because I have been telling you that Paul is not the first apostle to know the one and only gospel, for Peter and the other Apostles to the Lamb knew the one and only gospel first.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

      You are mixed up, because I have been telling you that Paul is not the first apostle to know the one and only gospel, for Peter and the other Apostles to the Lamb knew the one and only gospel first.
      What you say and what scripture says are two different things.
      All of my ancestors are human.
      Originally posted by Squeaky
      That explains why your an idiot.
      Originally posted by God's Truth
      Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
      Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
      (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

      1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
      (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

      Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Right Divider View Post

        What you say and what scripture says are two different things.
        Paul says he is the minister of the one and only gospel, and he quoted Jesus when he made the covenant, and he also had the GENTILE CORINTHIANS do the Lord's supper in remembrance of the covenant.
        Oh how I love the Word of God!

        Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

          Paul says he is the minister of the one and only gospel, and he quoted Jesus when he made the covenant, and he also had the GENTILE CORINTHIANS do the Lord's supper in remembrance of the covenant.
          Always CHANGING the "word" just a little.... twisting.... perverting....

          2Co 3:6 KJV Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
          Notice that WE are ALL "able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit:"

          Nothing whatsoever about being UNDER the new COVENANT. Jeremiah 31.

          All of my ancestors are human.
          Originally posted by Squeaky
          That explains why your an idiot.
          Originally posted by God's Truth
          Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
          Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
          (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

          1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
          (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

          Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Right Divider View Post

            Always CHANGING the "word" just a little.... twisting.... perverting....
            Never ever.

            Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
            Notice that WE are ALL "able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit:"

            Nothing whatsoever about being UNDER the new COVENANT. Jeremiah 31.
            You left out all those scriptures I gave about Paul quoting Jesus at the last supper when he made the covenant.
            Oh how I love the Word of God!

            Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

              Never ever.


              Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
              You left out all those scriptures I gave about Paul quoting Jesus at the last supper when he made the covenant.
              Clueless one, I was point out something about THAT SCRIPTURE that I quoted.

              I don't need to quote the entire Bible every time.

              Two REFERENCES to the new TESTAMENT in THIRTEEN epistles without a SINGLE clear indication of the body of Christ being in a covenant does NOT support your theory.
              All of my ancestors are human.
              Originally posted by Squeaky
              That explains why your an idiot.
              Originally posted by God's Truth
              Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
              Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
              (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

              1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
              (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

              Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

              Comment


              • #22
                Originally posted by DougE View Post
                1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

                Revealed to Paul, was the mystery, that the sacrificial death of Jesus was a ransom for all who would believe, both Jew and Gentile.

                This mystery was not made known to the prophets of the old testament scriptures, neither to the twelve disciples. This mystery was hid in God and not made known to any before being revealed to Paul (Ephesians 3:5 Ephesians 3:9).

                Matthew 20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

                Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

                What was made known in Matthew and Mark above, was that Christ gave his life to ransom many, not all. Christ gave his life to ransom Israel alone, the many. Christ redeemed the iniquities of Israel committed under the old testament (Hebrews 9:15).

                Only the mystery revealed the ransom was for all, and was only testified in due time, when revealed to Paul.
                This is simple, He gave Himself for all of the many ! The totality of the many, which many of course was comprised of many from the gentile world also !
                "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                Charles Spurgeon !

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                  This is simple, He gave Himself for all of the many !
                  Scripture twisting at its finest.

                  1Ti 2:3-4 KJV For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; (4) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
                  God wants everyone to be saved, but some refuse and God allows that. So simple.
                  All of my ancestors are human.
                  Originally posted by Squeaky
                  That explains why your an idiot.
                  Originally posted by God's Truth
                  Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                  Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                  (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                  1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                  (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                  Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
                    Scripture twisting at its finest.



                    God wants everyone to be saved, but some refuse and God allows that. So simple.
                    You arent speaking for the God of the scripture !
                    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                    Charles Spurgeon !

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                      You arent speaking for the God of the scripture !
                      I just believe His Word as written... whereas you force a false story upon the Bible.
                      All of my ancestors are human.
                      Originally posted by Squeaky
                      That explains why your an idiot.
                      Originally posted by God's Truth
                      Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                      Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                      (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                      1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                      (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                      Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Right Divider View Post

                        I just believe His Word as written... whereas you force a false story upon the Bible.
                        Its simple, The God of scripture is the God of Sovereign discriminating Election.
                        "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                        preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                        called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                        a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                        Charles Spurgeon !

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                          Its simple, The God of scripture is the God of Sovereign discriminating Election.
                          You have a bogus idea of His sovereignty. God gives people choices by His sovereign will.
                          All of my ancestors are human.
                          Originally posted by Squeaky
                          That explains why your an idiot.
                          Originally posted by God's Truth
                          Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                          Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                          (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                          1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                          (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                          Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Right Divider View Post

                            You have a bogus idea of His sovereignty. God gives people choices by His sovereign will.
                            Thats not the God of scripture, but the god you have manufactured in your mind.
                            "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                            preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                            called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                            a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                            Charles Spurgeon !

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                              Thats not the God of scripture, but the god you have manufactured in your mind.
                              1Ti 2:3-4 KJV For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; (4) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
                              1 Timothy 2:3-4 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

                              3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the [a]knowledge of the truth.
                              All of my ancestors are human.
                              Originally posted by Squeaky
                              That explains why your an idiot.
                              Originally posted by God's Truth
                              Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                              Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                              (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                              1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                              (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                              Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Right Divider View Post


                                No problem, again all of the many, Gods elect, its elementary
                                "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                                preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                                called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                                a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                                Charles Spurgeon !

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