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  • Originally posted by The Berean View Post
    What is Christianity?

    What are the tenets of Christianity?

    what is fundamentalism?

    I was wondering if we can actually define terms here.
    I'm sure you can try.

    I'm also sure somebody will reserve a seat in hell for you in failing to reciting their version.
    _/\_

    Christians: "I - a stranger and afraid - in a world I never made.." -- Houseman

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    • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
      Hmm, does "loving your neighbour" involve wanting a religious state imposed upon everyone in society where it's lawful to execute people for having homosexual relationships? To punish people for living together without being married? We already have laws that don't make light of murder, theft, rape, violent assault etc and if you think STD's would just magically disappear and everyone would live in a house surounded by a white picket fence with roses on it if your "ideal" were to come about then frankly, get a grip.

      Fundamentalism is the antithesis of love. It's just strict, dogmatic religionism.
      Once again, you make stuff up. What I said was, to paraphrase myself, if everyone followed the 10 commandments what changes would happen in our world? So, your response is, oh, how unfair that those who don't follow the 10 commandments would be punished. What I asked you has nothing to do with your answer. Instead of answering my question you make up a straw man and then demolish the straw man. Oh, what amazing thinking and logic. Too bad you can't answer a simple question. I guess that is just beyond your capabilities.
      “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
      ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

      “One and God make a majority.”
      ― Frederick Douglass

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      • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
        Fundamentalism is the antithesis of love.
        love of self (pride)
        love of self-serving (covetousness)
        love of sin



        yep, you're right

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        • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
          Once again, you make stuff up. What I said was, to paraphrase myself, if everyone followed the 10 commandments what changes would happen in our world? So, your response is, oh, how unfair that those who don't follow the 10 commandments would be punished. What I asked you has nothing to do with your answer. Instead of answering my question you make up a straw man and then demolish the straw man. Oh, what amazing thinking and logic. Too bad you can't answer a simple question. I guess that is just beyond your capabilities.
          The Ten Commandments

          You shall have no other gods before Me.
          You shall make no idols.
          You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
          Keep the Sabbath day holy.
          Honor your father and your mother.
          You shall not murder.
          You shall not commit adultery.
          You shall not steal.
          You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
          You shall not covet.


          I think that we both would agree that the world would be a far different place and highly likely a much more loving, peaceful, and productive world. Crime would be almost nothing and the family unit would be much stronger.
          Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu

          What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO

          I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve
          . -Ktoyou

          I'm white. I'm not black. I can't convert to being black. It doesn't matter how much I want to become black. I could listen to rap and date fat white women all day; for all that, I'll still remain white.- Traditio

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          • Originally posted by The Berean View Post
            The Ten Commandments

            You shall have no other gods before Me.
            You shall make no idols.
            You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
            Keep the Sabbath day holy.
            Honor your father and your mother.
            You shall not murder.
            You shall not commit adultery.
            You shall not steal.
            You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
            You shall not covet.


            I think that we both would agree that the world would be a far different place and highly likely a much more loving, peaceful, and productive world. Crime would be almost nothing and the family unit would be much stronger.
            I agree with you. Although, I would say there would be no crime. Period. Why? Because all crime comes from not respecting/loving our neighbors. There would be zero sexual perversion also for if we follow the 10 commandments there would be no place for those sins for marriage between a man and a woman would be the only place for the expression of sexuality.

            Jesus said that the entire law can be summed up in loving God supremely and loving our neighbor the same way we love ourselves. That would eliminate all sexual perversions, all abuse, all terrorism, all crime, etc.... There is no place left for such despicable behavior if we love God supremely and treat others the way we want to be treated.
            “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
            ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

            “One and God make a majority.”
            ― Frederick Douglass

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            • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
              Once again, you make stuff up. What I said was, to paraphrase myself, if everyone followed the 10 commandments what changes would happen in our world? So, your response is, oh, how unfair that those who don't follow the 10 commandments would be punished. What I asked you has nothing to do with your answer. Instead of answering my question you make up a straw man and then demolish the straw man. Oh, what amazing thinking and logic. Too bad you can't answer a simple question. I guess that is just beyond your capabilities.
              You seem more than capable of imagining or concocting your own strawmen without any help from me. Fundamentalism, at least in certain quarters here would result in enforced marriages with no possibility of divorce for co habiting non married couples. Also death for any gay people in a relationship etc. I'm not the one making this stuff up. It's all on record here.
              Well this is fun isn't it?

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              • ffree asks:
                Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
                ... if everyone followed the 10 commandments what changes would happen in our world?
                artie whines:
                Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                You seem more than capable of imagining or concocting your own strawmen without any help from me. Fundamentalism, at least in certain quarters here would result in enforced marriages with no possibility of divorce for co habiting non married couples. Also death for any gay people in a relationship etc. I'm not the one making this stuff up. It's all on record here.

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                • if everyone followed the 10 commandments what changes would happen in our world?
                  Wouldn't it be great if we had a president who follows the ten commandments?

                  The Ten Commandments

                  You shall have no other gods before Me.
                  You shall make no idols.
                  You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
                  Keep the Sabbath day holy.
                  Honor your father and your mother.
                  You shall not murder.
                  You shall not commit adultery.
                  You shall not steal.
                  You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
                  You shall not covet.
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                  • You forgot the part where it says "six days."

                    We know you reject that, why should we believe that you don't reject the rest?
                    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                    E≈mc2
                    "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                    "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                    -Bob B.

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                    • Originally posted by quip View Post
                      Religion per se matters not. It's the wholesale rejection of religious dogma in general...the division, prejudice and hate it inherently fosters. 9/11 was religion's crowning achievement; homosexuality, a parochial, close second.
                      This all sounds very bad, but parochial, as in parochial school seems like a nice something. I sent some of my children to parochial school, if they wanted to attend. Some did, and some didn't. I do not see what 9/11 had to do with Christian religion, since is had nothing in common with the Christian life.
                      So, what?

                      believe it!

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                      • Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                        You forgot the part where it says "six days."

                        We know you reject that, why should we believe that you don't reject the rest?
                        Well since Billy Graham, Karl Barth, C.S. Lewis, among numerous other Christian luminaries, saw no conflict between their Christian faith and evolutionary science, why should we?

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                        • Originally posted by User Name View Post
                          Well since Billy Graham, Karl Barth, C.S. Lewis,
                          Appeal to authority....

                          Who believes what...

                          among numerous other Christian luminaries,
                          ... and appeal to popularity.

                          ... and how many believe it does not determine truth.

                          saw no conflict between their Christian faith and evolutionary science, why should we?
                          When you base your beliefs on logical fallacies, your beliefs are inherently faulty.

                          The Bible says six days and at the beginning of creation God made man.

                          Evolution says man came about after millions if not billions of years after the beginning of the universe.

                          The law of non-contradiction says both the Bible and evolution CANNOT both be true.

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                          • Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            Well since Billy Graham, Karl Barth, C.S. Lewis, among numerous other Christian luminaries, saw no conflict between their Christian faith and evolutionary science, why should we?
                            So, you're followers of men rather than followers of God. That ain't gonna get you to heaven. Jesus said, Beware of men. The only trustworthy man to follow is Jesus and His word, the Bible. Following anything, anyone, else will lead you to the wrong destination.
                            “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
                            ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

                            “One and God make a majority.”
                            ― Frederick Douglass

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                            • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                              Appeal to authority....

                              Who believes what...

                              ... and appeal to popularity.

                              ... and how many believe it does not determine truth.
                              Your opinion is certainly no better than theirs, and if they can accept it so can the rest of us!

                              Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                              The Bible says six days and at the beginning of creation God made man.

                              Evolution says man came about after millions if not billions of years after the beginning of the universe.

                              The law of non-contradiction says both the Bible and evolution CANNOT both be true.
                              That is your opinion!

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                              • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
                                So, you're followers of men rather than followers of God. That ain't gonna get you to heaven. Jesus said, Beware of men. The only trustworthy man to follow is Jesus and His word, the Bible. Following anything, anyone, else will lead you to the wrong destination.
                                You are a man, so why should I follow your opinions?

                                Paul was a man, and he said to follow him! -- 1 Cor 11:1 KJV

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