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  • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Appeal to authority....

    Who believes what...



    ... and appeal to popularity.

    ... and how many believe it does not determine truth.



    When you base your beliefs on logical fallacies, your beliefs are inherently faulty.

    The Bible says six days and at the beginning of creation God made man.

    Evolution says man came about after millions if not billions of years after the beginning of the universe.

    The law of non-contradiction says both the Bible and evolution CANNOT both be true.
    Um, rather that it's your insistence on reading an account absolutely literally that could render such diametric opposition. Otherwise, there's no problem. Fundamentalism is not the bible.
    Well this is fun isn't it?

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    • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
      ... reading an account absolutely literally ...


      Jesus did




      Matthew 24:37-39 (KJV)

      37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

      38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

      39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.





      Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
      Fundamentalism is not the bible.

      rather, fundamentalism is Christianity

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      • Originally posted by User Name View Post
        Your opinion is certainly no better than theirs,
        Of course.

        Doesn't change the fact that the Bible says six days and at the beginning of creation.

        and if they can accept it so can the rest of us!
        That still doesn't make their beliefs correct.

        The Bble says six days and at the beginning of creation.

        That is your opinion!
        Sorry, but no. It's fact.

        For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. - Exodus 20:11 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...1&version=NKJV

        But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ - Mark 10:6 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...6&version=NKJV

        And you, being someone who accepts evolution to be true, should already be aware of your own position.
        Last edited by JudgeRightly; November 4th, 2019, 06:26 PM.

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        • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
          The Bble says six days and at the beginning of creation.

          Sorry, but no. It's fact.

          And you, being someone who accepts evolution to be true, should already be aware of your own position.
          The Bible also says that there were days and nights upon the earth before God even created the sun, stars, or any other object in the universe aside from the earth. How could there be days and nights with no sun? Why can't you answer this question scientifically?

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          • Originally posted by User Name View Post
            The Bible also says that there were days and nights upon the earth before God even created the sun, stars, or any other object in the universe aside from the earth. How could there be days and nights with no sun?
            Easy.

            There was day and night because God created light, and then separated light from darkness.

            The light He called Day, and the Darkness He called night.

            Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis 1:3-5 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5&version=NKJV

            You don't need anything but light and dark for there to be day or night. The sun is just a ball of plasma.

            It isn't light itself.

            God created light. Then created the sun after.

            Why can't you answer this question scientifically?
            Loaded question.

            I just answered it scientifically.

            Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
            Ultimately, there's no reasoning with avid YEC's as no matter what you put forward and explain, they'll fob it off no matter what. An old earth/universe/evolution etc just cannot be allowed because it's utterly contradictory to a belief system that's almost practically set in stone. Kudos to you for overcoming that in fact.
            See, even Artie admits it. The Bible cannot be reconciled with evolution because the two are contradictory.

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            • Originally posted by User Name View Post
              The Bible also says that there were days and nights upon the earth before God even created the sun, stars, or any other object in the universe aside from the earth. How could there be days and nights with no sun? Why can't you answer this question scientifically?
              By the way, this is a red herring.

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              • Originally posted by User Name View Post
                The Bible also says that there were days and nights upon the earth before God even created the sun, stars, or any other object in the universe aside from the earth. How could there be days and nights with no sun? Why can't you answer this question scientifically?
                Good luck with that...of course, there could be some allegory going on in all of that...but apparently not.

                Well this is fun isn't it?

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                • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                  Easy.

                  There was day and night because God created light, and then separated light from darkness.

                  The light He called Day, and the Darkness He called night.

                  Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis 1:3-5 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5&version=NKJV

                  You don't need anything but light and dark for there to be day or night. The sun is just a ball of plasma.

                  It isn't light itself.

                  God created light. Then created the sun after.



                  Loaded question.

                  I just answered it scientifically.



                  See, even Artie admits it. The Bible cannot be reconciled with evolution because the two are contradictory.
                  Um, no, I said no such thing. I said it's utterly contradictory to a particular belief system, not that evolution is incompatible with the Bible itself. Please don't make stuff up about me like that.

                  Well this is fun isn't it?

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                  • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                    Easy.

                    There was day and night because God created light, and then separated light from darkness.

                    The light He called Day, and the Darkness He called night.

                    Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis 1:3-5 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5&version=NKJV

                    You don't need anything but light and dark for there to be day or night. The sun is just a ball of plasma.

                    It isn't light itself.

                    God created light. Then created the sun after.



                    Loaded question.

                    I just answered it scientifically.
                    You call this science? No wonder they won't allow young earth creationism to be taught in science classrooms!

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                    • Originally posted by User Name View Post
                      You call this science? No wonder they won't allow young earth creationism to be taught in science classrooms!
                      They can't, because it isn't science.
                      Well this is fun isn't it?

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                      • Originally posted by User Name View Post
                        The Bible also says that there were days and nights upon the earth before God even created the sun, stars, or any other object in the universe aside from the earth. How could there be days and nights with no sun? Why can't you answer this question scientifically?
                        In the beginning, God created light from the darkness, then He created many other things, then God created natural laws and science. Science, as a meaningful explanation is irrelevant to all that God created before He created natural laws and science.
                        So, what?

                        believe it!

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                        • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                          Um, no, I said no such thing. I said it's utterly contradictory to a particular belief system, not that evolution is incompatible with the Bible itself. Please don't make stuff up about me like that.

                          Oh, so which "particular belief system were you referring to, if not that of the one that comes directly from the Bible?

                          I'll let 6days' comment to Barbarian explain a bit more why the Bible and evolution are incompatible.

                          Originally posted by 6days View Post
                          Scripture tells us 'in six days God created the heavens and the Earth and everything in them.
                          * Barbarian does not believe that but has to put a spin on it.

                          Jesus tells us humanity existed from a Time near the foundation of the world and the beginning of the creation.
                          * Barbarian does not believe that but has to put a spin on it.

                          Scripture tells us that God initially, God gave all the animals and humans a vegetarian diet.
                          * Barbarian does not believe that either.

                          Scripture tells us that Last Adam went to the Cross because physical death entered our world when first Adam sinned.
                          * Barbarian compromises scripture and does not accept that.

                          Scripture tells us that woman was created from the side of a man.
                          * Barbarian rejects what scripture plainly tells us.

                          Scripture tells us, that the patriarchs lived many hundreds of years, and the lifetimes dramatically decreased after the flood.
                          * Barbarian will put a spin on that.

                          Scripture tells us "The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits."
                          * Barbarian doesn't believe that. He says it means only some mountains.. small mountains.

                          Scripture tells us that God created the Earth before the sun
                          * Barbarian totally rejects that.

                          Scripture tells us that Adam called Eve the mother of all.
                          * Does Barbarian believe what that implicitly says.. no

                          Barbarian sadly is committed to a secular worldview, which rejects the plain teachings of scripture.
                          Just insert your name in place of "Barbarian."

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                          • Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            You call this science?
                            No, I call this science:

                            Science: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

                            We observe in scripture that God created light, and that He separated light from darkness.

                            We observe that all you need for day and night is light and darkness, respectively.

                            We observe in scripture that God called light "Day" and darkness "Night," and that end of the first day was "evening and morning."

                            See? Scientific.

                            No wonder they won't allow young earth creationism to be taught in science classrooms!
                            Darwinists love making things up.

                            The fact that they don't allow it is even more evidence that it contradicts their worldview, which is millions and billions of years.

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                            • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                              Oh, so which "particular belief system were you referring to, if not that of the one that comes directly from the Bible?

                              I'll let 6days' comment to Barbarian explain a bit more why the Bible and evolution are incompatible.



                              Just insert your name in place of "Barbarian."
                              I'm presuming you're familiar with allegory? Symbolism? Metaphor? I was referring to fundamentalism as if you didn't already know and why there's more than sufficient reason to see elements of the above in the creation account that fundamentalism discounts. In no way did I posit anything as you suggested so please refrain from that in future when you quote me if it's all the same to you..
                              Well this is fun isn't it?

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                              • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                                No, I call this science:

                                Science: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

                                We observe in scripture that God created light, and that He separated light from darkness.

                                We observe that all you need for day and night is light and darkness, respectively.

                                We observe in scripture that God called light "Day" and darkness "Night," and that end of the first day was "evening and morning."

                                See? Scientific.



                                Darwinists love making things up.

                                The fact that they don't allow it is even more evidence that it contradicts their worldview, which is millions and billions of years.
                                So, you think that all of scientific theory, thought, that's been established on corroborated consensus is about "making things up"? That's the whole kit and kaboodle as well, biology, physics, chemistry, not just the bugbear of evolution?

                                Well this is fun isn't it?

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