As George W Bush once said "We judge others by their worst example, and ourselves by our best intention."
Democrats Destroying the Most Important Principles of Justice in the USA
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As George W Bush once said "We judge others by their worst example, and ourselves by our best intention."
Then stop trying to suggest it did something you can't produce. And don't make, to be charitable, misleading statements on the point.
I wrote that her testimony was credible.
You responded with, "The FBI didn't think so but what do they know?"
We both know that's not objectively true. It's contrary to what they actually do, which you know. And it's unsupported by any statement by any representative of the FBI.
He did. And a few republicans voted for Obama's two picks. I think four on the first and six on the second. The rest didn't. What's your point, that you're amazed a democrat
What evidence could that be?
That's not true either, but at least you're being consistent.
Speaking of saying a thing that isn't supportable but suits you:
Always? Man. List three in this conversation. But the question I asked in that response contained the rebuttal, the inference that your question had no particular value.
Here's why. The presumption of innocence in relation to a hearing is a legal presumption and the context for its application is a criminal trial.
It doesn't exist and isn't applicable in a civil hearing. It doesn't exist and isn't applicable in a hearing on a nomination to the S. Ct.
Someone could be asked a question with the potential for criminal and/or civil action, but that's true outside of a hearing. A reporter could ask a question and the answer might open the answering party for criminal or civil action.
The Senate. It's a thing that permeates every single thing in our society, Two votes per state no matter how big.
If Trump bought Siberia from Putin I would not be surprised.
And I think it's a good idea, just noting that among the senators voting it to the floor, as with the presidency, the power rested with the minority of Americans.
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That's pretty good. I wonder who wrote it.
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"It's not a Bug it's a feature"
I'm not kidding, Trump wants to lease North Korea, it's a great location!
Maybe, just maybe, it was George W Bush.
And maybe Donald Trump will be President!
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Inarguably, but everything that is permissible isn't also good.
I mean, mathematically speaking it's a possibility. But it was from a speech and reads like the work of a rhetorician. That said, you missed a bit of it.
Here's the entire passage.
"We have seen our discourse degraded by casual cruelty. At times, it can seem like the forces pulling us apart are stronger than the forces binding us together. Argument turns too easily into animosity. Disagreement escalates into dehumanization. Too often, we judge other groups by their worst examples while judging ourselves by our best intentions – forgetting the image of God we should see in each other."
Whoever wrote it, I'm happy for the sentiment and, at the very least, endorsement.
But will he ever act like one more often than not? That's the question.
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it occurs to me that the former is reliant on emotion, while the latter relies on logic and rationality
Jerry Shugart
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Exactly what was credible about her testimony?
It was consistent with the testimony of women who have been sexually assaulted. I found her demeanor and answers convincing. So did the guy she accused, at least so far as someone having traumatized her.
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Pretty good restatement of the Fundamental Attribution Error.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error
Jerry Shugart
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So? Many of women who have been sexually assaulted remember all of the details. Besides that, her testimony was absolutely destroyed by the fact that none of the people who she said was at the party admit to being there. But since you want to believe Ford so bad you care nothing about those facts.
Like her answer about her fear of flying?
Like her answer when questioned about if she knew that Grassley had offered to send the investigators anywhere she wished?
All you prove is the fact that you will believe anything if it advances your liberal agenda.
A little bit flowery for Gee Dub I would agree but I Can Believe he wrote it......
Trump is Seventy Two now? I wouldn't look for any big changes, Old Dogs and all.
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Right but emotion and intuition are what keeps us alive in nature, we don't think about everything and that's why we've survived thus far.
False positives and false negatives are another way to look at it. And the cost associated with each.
Let's say you live in an area where panthers hang out in trees and pounce on things walking down game trails. And you're walking down a game trail and get a funny feeling about that bunch of trees ahead. You don't see or hear or smell anything that would say there was a panther but that's just what you'd expect if there was a panther.
So you go around.
Now, if there wasn't a panther then you had a false positive. What did it cost You? Not much, you just went around.
Now if you went threw the trees and you had a false negative (I don't see, hear, smell a panther) but there was in fact a panther then the false negative is very costly, you're getting mauled by a panther.
That's how we wound up with religion.
We can agree it expresses his sentiment, at any rate, and by "his sentiment" I mean after he was out of office. Like Clinton before him, he appears to be made of different stuff than was evidenced during his time in power.
That's too bad, but you're likely right.
Yup, it's a whole new ball game now. That's why we did it. Don't get me wrong it was a little scary. I voted for Trump in the primaries and the general and felt like I was doing something very risky. Perhaps disastrous. Something that couldn't be undone.
I'm pleased with the results and I might do more things like that in the future.
I was talking to a conservative co-worker before the general election. He said he was going to vote for Hillary and I said "That's a nice safe bet, a known quantity, I had a great time in the 90s, who didn't?"
And then I asked him when was the last time he took all his clothes off and jumped into a snowbank.
He admitted that it had been quite a while if in fact he had ever done that.
So I said to him; "When you're standing in that voting booth if you feel like doing something a little bit crazy vote for Trump".
The seal has been broken. The Politicians belittled the commoner. And he won because they we're belittling us.