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  • #31
    Originally posted by WizardofOz View Post
    I appreciate your candidness
    Anytime.

    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
    Terence Mc Lean

    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by WizardofOz View Post
      I appreciate your candidness
      It would be nice to see you leave this thread.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by WizardofOz View Post
        Suppress counter arguments

        Enjoy your echo chamber
        If your posts were too suddenly disappear, I highly doubt anyone would notice nor care.
        Last edited by Grosnick Marowbe; May 22nd, 2018, 11:10 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
          I think Brennan is about to have a nervous breakdown in spite of Clapper's statement about it being a good thing for the CIA and FBI to spy on the campaigns of their opponents. The Deep State is all aflutter.
          I am so angry to think the government was using taxpayers dollars to try and rig a presidential election. Now they are saying it was to "protect Trump".



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          • #35
            Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
            I think Brennan is about to have a nervous breakdown in spite of Clapper's statement about it being a good thing for the CIA and FBI to spy on the campaigns of their opponents. The Deep State is all aflutter.
            And then the Left can't see that God is involved in all this. All the odds against Trump as winning, but He still wins. They don't understand that God's righteousness is exposing all things. They would rather it be covered and America to continue on into an authoritarian regime controlling its citizens via control of politics.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
              That's the way the 'Left' roles, right? Hypocrisy is the name of the game for them.
              Then they want to call MS 13 gang members " children of God". Just because of something that came out of Trump's mouth. The Lord always separated children of the evil one from children of the righteous.

              1 John 3:10 KJV
              In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by musterion View Post
                Very good article on how the endless train of leftist sex scandals is forcing people to ignore their hypocritical preaching.



                And too many of them knew about these things all the while. It all started in earnest with Bill Clinton - the most powerful man on earth - forcing a 22 year old intern to get under the desk, and they covered for him.

                https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/how-metoo-undermines-the-resistance
                Just an observation. The left (I would call it the radical left, but that seems the predominant voice on that side of the aisle now) can hardly be accused of hypocrisy. They may have a morality, but it can't be confused with the more traditional morality usually associated with the right. The modern left typically stands for exaltation of personal rights and freedoms as the highest good. So the issue with Clinton wasn't so much his sexual activities as it was his abuse of power. The whole #MeToo movement is predicated on just that - it's more about power than it is sex. That in no way justifies that abuse - but it tells me that the left isn't guilty of hypocrisy (not like the right can be sometimes charged with). It would be better for society, I think, if they were guilty of hypocrisy. Then some of the ideas that they are supporting might die on the vine out of sheer lack of credibility (thinking primarily in terms of those to do with sexual freedom). But the left is generally true to its ideology.

                In what society does the government fund a known abortion factory and at the same time do this :

                Doctor Charged with Fetal Homicide for Spiking Girlfriend's Drink with Abortion Pil

                It's only murder if the woman decides she actually wanted the baby?
                If God promises life, He slayeth first; when He builds, He casteth all down first. God is no patcher; He cannot build on another's foundation. - William Tyndale

                The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
                Jeremiah 17:9

                Who is among you that feareth the Lord, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the Lord, and stay upon his God.
                Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.

                Isaiah 50:10-11

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                • #38
                  You are missing the point. They hold their enemies to their enemies' own standards, which is fine BUT they excuse or ignore their own when their own violate the same standards. That shows that they really have no respect for the standard itself; it's just a handy club to beat their enemy with. That is blatant hypocrisy .
                  "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
                  Terence Mc Lean

                  [most will be very surprised]


                  Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
                  By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by musterion View Post
                    You are missing the point. They hold their enemies to their enemies' own standards, which is fine BUT they excuse or ignore their own when their own violate the same standards. That shows that they really have no respect for the standard itself; it's just a handy club to beat their enemy with. That is blatant hypocrisy .
                    What I was trying to point out, though, is that they really aren't guilty of hypocrisy. Amoral behavior, yes, but they have redfined morality so that they can't be hypocrites. When it's all about what "I" want, then there technically can't be any real hypocrisy. But that is so much more dangerous because of the redefinition (rejection) of right and wrong.
                    If God promises life, He slayeth first; when He builds, He casteth all down first. God is no patcher; He cannot build on another's foundation. - William Tyndale

                    The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
                    Jeremiah 17:9

                    Who is among you that feareth the Lord, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the Lord, and stay upon his God.
                    Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.

                    Isaiah 50:10-11

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Rusha View Post
                      Have you ever noticed when it comes to sexual immorality, no one ever says "Obama did it too"?
                      Yep. Normal, healthy kids, normal, healthy marriage. Obama's values seem to infuriate the right, as if being faithful to one's wife was a sin.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
                        Poor Monica....a 22 year old intern is excluded from the MeToo movement by the left. Figures.
                        Yep. Probably because she was bragging to her buddy about how she was having sex with Bill. Being an eager participant does change things a bit.

                        Oh, and Hillary the "victim"?
                        Yep. Bill and Monica were adulterers. She was the wife they cheated on.

                        That one who called all of Bill's accusers/victims trailer trash?
                        Hard to see how Monica was a victim, seeing as she was more than willing. But this isn't really about the facts for so many on the right. "LaLa Land" is an apt description for the echo chamber in which they live.

                        For them the Jeffery Weinberg defense seems like a good idea: "it's all the victim's fault."
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                          Yep. Probably because she was bragging to her buddy about how she was having sex with Bill. Being an eager participant does change things a bit.



                          Yep. Bill and Monica were adulterers. She was the wife they cheated on.



                          Hard to see how Monica was a victim, seeing as she was more than willing. But this isn't really about the facts for so many on the right. "LaLa Land" is an apt description for the echo chamber in which they live.

                          For them the Jeffery Weinberg defense seems like a good idea: "it's all the victim's fault."
                          In case you missed it, I was referring to the hypocrisy. Always depends on what side you're on.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
                            In case you missed it, I was referring to the hypocrisy.
                            So was I. Blaming the victim is an old game, (admittedly not exclusively a right wing game) and blaming Hillary Clinton for the things Monica and Bill did is a prime example.

                            Always depends on what side you're on.
                            Sometimes, as in this case, there's no moral ambiguity.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by musterion View Post
                              You are missing the point. They hold their enemies to their enemies' own standards, which is fine BUT they excuse or ignore their own when their own violate the same standards. That shows that they really have no respect for the standard itself; it's just a handy club to beat their enemy with. That is blatant hypocrisy .

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                                So was I. Blaming the victim is an old game, (admittedly not exclusively a right wing game) and blaming Hillary Clinton for the things Monica and Bill did is a prime example.



                                Sometimes, as in this case, there's no moral ambiguity.
                                Good point. Only difference being that Hillary belittled and besmirched the women Bill forced.

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