I will not vote for trump

Ktoyou

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Let's define 'racist': the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others

You've all dumbed that down to virtually saying anything critical of another race.

Not so much anymore. I would call that racialist. Racialism is the belief in superior 'races'.

What we have instead is the "you can't join of club kind, and you can't live in out neighborhood king, and sometimes you get Monty's kind." "Hate is always the same; it is always senseless."
 

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[/I]I'm aware. Are you suggesting that someone who felt all Mexicans were of that stripe wouldn't feel superior to that group? :plain: Because if you don't feel superior to a group you're insulting it mostly loses the sting and point, don't you think?


Moving this point back to the original one, could you believe that level of moral turpitude exists in an entire people and not be a racist?

He wasn't really speaking of all Mexicans. He put it that way to amplify the importance of needing control over the border. You say 'some' and you end up with the liberal notion of doing nothing.
This is exactly what you all do- you abuse what people say. Trump isn't a 'racist'. That's why people are angry with the PC crowd because they labor under absurdity.
 

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He wasn't really speaking of all Mexicans.
He seemed to be speaking to most. Especially when he stopped to say "ome, I assume, are good people." That makes those good people the exception to a rule. That's a powerfully ignorant thing to say. An alarming thing for someone who wants to hold the highest elected office and be charged with enforcement of the law.

This is exactly what you all do-
You should really let his mistaken overgeneralization be a cautionary tale for you.

you abuse what people say.
Well, no.

Trump isn't a 'racist'.
You don't have to be a racist to say that most Mexicans entering the country are of the ilk of rapists...but it would be more surprising that someone comfortable saying that wasn't racist than it would be else...and in any event it's a lamentable lack of good judgment, as comments go.

That's why people are angry with the PC crowd because they labor under absurdity.
PC is just the label people use to elevate something they know they shouldn't think or say to a level of respectability, confusing poor thinking and worse manners with a public virtue.
 

chrysostom

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Moving this point back to the original one, could you believe that level of moral turpitude exists in an entire people and not be a racist?

haven't heard that word in a long time
-thanks for bringing it back
-trump turpitude
-it might stick
 

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Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane

It was a hypothetical question - IF there was a law banning abortion and a woman has one, should she be punished. The people that provided and performed the abortion are punished and the mother is a victim

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
That was Trump's 3rd answer in a matter of 3 hours.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politi...ons/index.html

Your boy should stay away from social issues, he's only exposing himself to be idiot that he really is.


Come to think of it, Trump has been wishy washy on pretty everything that he supposedly stands for (he's supposedly going to be tough on Islam but would remain "neutral" in the Israel/Palestinian (i.e. Hama/Muslim Brotherhood) conflict.

Can any of you Trumpeteers (Patrick jane, ok doser, Nick M. glorydaz, Crucible, THall...and forgive me if I left out any other Libertarians) show one area where Donald Trump has stood strong and not wavered when it comes to campaign promises?
 

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That's a powerfully ignorant thing to say.

According to what, exactly? You ever been to Mexico?
It's not racist if it's true.


a tool used to keep from ever speaking on issues that others may see as offensive.

That is, white people can be barraged by minorities and cannot say anything about it because they might not like it- that's like getting punched over and over in the face, too afraid you'll offend your attacker if you hit back :rolleyes:

That's what PC is. Lunacy.
 

chrysostom

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I am not protected
-I am an old,white,male,catholic conservative
-go ahead
-take your best shot
 

Town Heretic

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According to what, exactly?
Any reasonable analysis.

You ever been to Mexico?
Sure. One of my boyhood friend's father was a surgeon who had a charter boat he'd run down to Cozumel during the summer. But that doesn't have anything to do with the nature of his statement. And if you're defending the notion that only the exceptional among Mexicans aren't on par with rapists you should consider joining his ticket.

It's not racist if it's true.
It's true that a racist believes it. So that's a problem for you.

a tool used to keep from ever speaking on issues that others may see as offensive.
Saying, "This might not be PC, but" is a way of attempting to elevate poor manners and low rhetoric to a respectability it can't attain otherwise.
 

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Any reasonable analysis.


Sure. One of my boyhood friend's father was a surgeon who had a charter boat he'd run down to Cozumel during the summer. But that doesn't have anything to do with the nature of his statement. And if you're defending the notion that only the exceptional among Mexicans aren't on par with rapists you should consider joining his ticket.


It's true that a racist believes it. So that's a problem for you.


Saying, "This might not be PC, but" is a way of attempting to elevate poor manners and low rhetoric to a respectability it can't attain otherwise.

Obviously, there have been recent (as in 10 years) cases of rapist and criminal Mexican illegal immigrants that came to America. Some even legally perhaps. That doesn't mean there aren't rapists and criminals in every sample group you look at. There were reported and other documented rapists and criminal Mexicans or else Trump wouldn't have mentioned it. Trump is not a racist
 
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