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    Could Dogs detect Covis-19?

    The UK Government is to provide £500,000 for research to discover whether trained dogs can identify the coronavirus or covid-19 in people. We already have 'Medical Detection Dogs' used to identify certain cancers, Parkinsons disease and malaria, and seizure detection dogs have proved to be life-savers for some sufferers of epilepsy.

    A friend of mine trains drug and explosives detection dogs and he feels that if this research produces positive results that testing could advance safety for all. I have included a link to Medical Detection Dogs and have also pronted out an introduction to this work from their web-site.

    Dogs could join the fight against COVID-19
    www.medicaldetectiondogs.org.uk
    Medical Detection Dogs is looking into whether man's best friend could play a role in preventing the spread of Coronavirus. The charity has spent years ...
    The charity has spent years successfully researching the science behind dogs’ sense of smell and believes that dogs could detect the disease. It has always adopted a rigorous, scientific approach to its work, and produced more than a dozen peer reviewed research papers which support its belief that each disease has its own unique odour.

    Medical Detection Dogs will be working in partnership with the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) and Durham University, bringing together the team which recently collaborated to successfully prove that dogs can be trained to detect malaria.

    Together they have started preparations to intensively train dogs so they could be ready in 6 weeks to help provide a rapid, non-invasive diagnosis towards the tail end of the epidemic, and approached government about how dogs can play a role in the fight against the disease.

    Dogs searching for COVID-19 would be trained in the same way as those dogs the charity has already trained to detect diseases like cancer, Parkinson’s and bacterial infections – by sniffing samples in the charity’s training room and indicating when they have found it. They are also able to detect subtle changes in temperature of the skin, so could potentially tell if someone has a fever.

    Once trained, dogs could also be used to identify travelers entering the country infected with the virus or be deployed in other public spaces.
    Dr Claire Guest, CEO and Co-Founder of Medical Detection Dogs, says: “In principle, we’re sure that dogs could detect COVID-19. We are now looking into how we can safely catch the odour of the virus from patients and present it to the dogs.

    “The aim is that dogs will be able to screen anyone, including those who are asymptomatic and tell us whether they need to be tested. This would be fast, effective and non-invasive and make sure the limited NHS testing resources are only used where they are really needed.”

    Professor James Logan, Head of Department of Disease Control at The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, and Director of ARCTEC, said: “Our previous work demonstrated that dogs can detect odours from humans with a malaria infection with extremely high accuracy – above the World Health Organisation standards for a diagnostic.


  • #2
    Originally posted by eider View Post
    Could Dogs detect Covis-19?

    The UK Government is to provide £500,000 for research to discover whether trained dogs can identify the coronavirus or covid-19 in people. We already have 'Medical Detection Dogs' used to identify certain cancers, Parkinsons disease and malaria, and seizure detection dogs have proved to be life-savers for some sufferers of epilepsy.

    A friend of mine trains drug and explosives detection dogs and he feels that if this research produces positive results that testing could advance safety for all. I have included a link to Medical Detection Dogs and have also pronted out an introduction to this work from their web-site.

    Dogs could join the fight against COVID-19
    www.medicaldetectiondogs.org.uk
    Medical Detection Dogs is looking into whether man's best friend could play a role in preventing the spread of Coronavirus. The charity has spent years ...
    The charity has spent years successfully researching the science behind dogs’ sense of smell and believes that dogs could detect the disease. It has always adopted a rigorous, scientific approach to its work, and produced more than a dozen peer reviewed research papers which support its belief that each disease has its own unique odour.

    Medical Detection Dogs will be working in partnership with the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) and Durham University, bringing together the team which recently collaborated to successfully prove that dogs can be trained to detect malaria.

    Together they have started preparations to intensively train dogs so they could be ready in 6 weeks to help provide a rapid, non-invasive diagnosis towards the tail end of the epidemic, and approached government about how dogs can play a role in the fight against the disease.

    Dogs searching for COVID-19 would be trained in the same way as those dogs the charity has already trained to detect diseases like cancer, Parkinson’s and bacterial infections – by sniffing samples in the charity’s training room and indicating when they have found it. They are also able to detect subtle changes in temperature of the skin, so could potentially tell if someone has a fever.

    Once trained, dogs could also be used to identify travelers entering the country infected with the virus or be deployed in other public spaces.
    Dr Claire Guest, CEO and Co-Founder of Medical Detection Dogs, says: “In principle, we’re sure that dogs could detect COVID-19. We are now looking into how we can safely catch the odour of the virus from patients and present it to the dogs.

    “The aim is that dogs will be able to screen anyone, including those who are asymptomatic and tell us whether they need to be tested. This would be fast, effective and non-invasive and make sure the limited NHS testing resources are only used where they are really needed.”

    Professor James Logan, Head of Department of Disease Control at The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, and Director of ARCTEC, said: “Our previous work demonstrated that dogs can detect odours from humans with a malaria infection with extremely high accuracy – above the World Health Organisation standards for a diagnostic.
    Imaging a world in which you have to have a dog's permission to enter a store, restaurant or other public establishment.

    Do these dogs ever give false indications? Yes!

    Can you tell by looking at these dogs what it is they're trained to detect? No!


    This Wuhan Virus outbreak is the biggest leap forward for left wing, command and control, big government socialism that the world has seen since the eugenics craze in the early 20th century. It too was aimed at wiping out, or at least reducing, disease and was sold as a public health issue. (Ironically, it's the same sort of people who supported manipulation of the human gene pool who now act as if genetically modified corn is something to be scared of.)

    Every time something scary happens we loose large chunks of our freedom to the point now where it seems our liberty, what of it there is left, might literally be going to the dogs.

    Clete
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Clete View Post
      Imaging a world in which you have to have a dog's permission to enter a store, restaurant or other public establishment.

      Do these dogs ever give false indications? Yes!

      Can you tell by looking at these dogs what it is they're trained to detect? No!


      This Wuhan Virus outbreak is the biggest leap forward for left wing, command and control, big government socialism that the world has seen since the eugenics craze in the early 20th century. It too was aimed at wiping out, or at least reducing, disease and was sold as a public health issue. (Ironically, it's the same sort of people who supported manipulation of the human gene pool who now act as if genetically modified corn is something to be scared of.)

      Every time something scary happens we loose large chunks of our freedom to the point now where it seems our liberty, what of it there is left, might literally be going to the dogs.

      Clete
      Huh?
      Our Conservative government is funding this.
      We use sniffer dogs to detect other illnesses and if, just if, a dog can be trained to detect covid, then this could make public venues much safer.
      You're so paranoid !

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      • #4
        Originally posted by eider View Post

        Huh?
        Our Conservative government is funding this.
        We use sniffer dogs to detect other illnesses and if, just if, a dog can be trained to detect covid, then this could make public venues much safer.
        You're so paranoid !
        With all due respect, we do not have a conservative government. Far from it. This economic shut down is the most left wing, command and control, big government, socialistic move that any president have ever taken it upon himself to even attempt, never mind actually carry out. The left always seem to get these big quantum leaps in the advancement of their agenda when there is a Republican in the White House and the measure that achieved it always seems to be supported by the right and apposed by the left!

        And no, it would not make any venue safer. It would only delay the inevitable, if it even did that. Have you read anything about how this virus spreads and how contagious it is? Putting sniffer dogs at the front door of public venues would work as well at preventing the Wuhan Virus as it would work at preventing the common cold or the flu. The COVID-19 virus is spread in pretty much exactly the same way. Chances are excellent that you will catch this virus if you haven't already. The difference between it and the cold or flu is that it seems (they think) that once you've had the Wuhan Virus you're probably immune from getting it again. If that turns out not to be the case then no amount of sniffer dogs or masks or socialist distancing is going to matter a hill of beans. The best possible effect any such measure could hope to have is to slow down the spread of the disease thus prolonging the amount of time that everyone has to have their crotch sniffed by a dog when they walk into Walmart as well as every other command and control measure this so called "conservative" government has already put in place.

        If you want to give up your freedom for the sake of safety, you go right ahead but don't think I'm going along with it. If you believe it paranoid to think that the government will take your liberty if given the chance then you've been asleep for the last two months - at least. Every crisis that comes along is used as an excuse to take yet more of your freedoms away. We used to be free to speak our mind, to believe what our own conscience demanded and to go where we pleased. Now, stray too far from being a leftist, pervert or atheist and you'd better watch what you say, especially if you happen to be a white male who believes the bible.

        Clete
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Clete View Post

          With all due respect, we do not have a conservative government. Far from it. This economic shut down is the most left wing, command and control, big government, socialistic move that any president have ever taken it upon himself to even attempt, never mind actually carry out. The left always seem to get these big quantum leaps in the advancement of their agenda when there is a Republican in the White House and the measure that achieved it always seems to be supported by the right and apposed by the left!

          And no, it would not make any venue safer. It would only delay the inevitable, if it even did that. Have you read anything about how this virus spreads and how contagious it is? Putting sniffer dogs at the front door of public venues would work as well at preventing the Wuhan Virus as it would work at preventing the common cold or the flu. The COVID-19 virus is spread in pretty much exactly the same way. Chances are excellent that you will catch this virus if you haven't already. The difference between it and the cold or flu is that it seems (they think) that once you've had the Wuhan Virus you're probably immune from getting it again. If that turns out not to be the case then no amount of sniffer dogs or masks or socialist distancing is going to matter a hill of beans. The best possible effect any such measure could hope to have is to slow down the spread of the disease thus prolonging the amount of time that everyone has to have their crotch sniffed by a dog when they walk into Walmart as well as every other command and control measure this so called "conservative" government has already put in place.

          If you want to give up your freedom for the sake of safety, you go right ahead but don't think I'm going along with it. If you believe it paranoid to think that the government will take your liberty if given the chance then you've been asleep for the last two months - at least. Every crisis that comes along is used as an excuse to take yet more of your freedoms away. We used to be free to speak our mind, to believe what our own conscience demanded and to go where we pleased. Now, stray too far from being a leftist, pervert or atheist and you'd better watch what you say, especially if you happen to be a white male who believes the bible.

          Clete
          Wow!
          I live in the UK and our leader is very right wing, went to Eton school etc.
          You write as if a medical expert, what do you work at, please?
          We won't know if dogs can detect covid for some time, but if they can and if they are used at public venues, then all they would do is sit down beside a positive signal. In such a situation I would expect that the person would be asked to submit to a test.
          if you travel by plane you've already been subjected to detection dogs which walk along queues at airports, but I wouldn't be worried.

          If such dogs exist and if their use helps to open up our communities more quickly, then I expect that people like President Trump would embrace their use very quickly.
          ​​​​​​
          You are still free to speak your mind. You still do I expect. Obviously you can't promote or incite crime and hatred, but that's all.

          And you have never been able to go just anywhere you liked. Never.

          Tell me now...... Where exactly do you want to go which is forbidden to you?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Clete View Post
            This economic shut down is the most left wing, command and control, big government, socialistic move that any president have ever taken it upon himself to even attempt, never mind actually carry out. The left always seem to get these big quantum leaps in the advancement of their agenda when there is a Republican in the White House
            Feel free to rip Trump by name, no need to be shy about it. Soon you'll be accused of having "TDS!"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Clete View Post

              With all due respect, we do not have a conservative government. Far from it. This economic shut down is the most left wing, command and control, big government, socialistic move that any president have ever taken it upon himself to even attempt, never mind actually carry out. The left always seem to get these big quantum leaps in the advancement of their agenda when there is a Republican in the White House and the measure that achieved it always seems to be supported by the right and apposed by the left!

              And no, it would not make any venue safer. It would only delay the inevitable, if it even did that. Have you read anything about how this virus spreads and how contagious it is? Putting sniffer dogs at the front door of public venues would work as well at preventing the Wuhan Virus as it would work at preventing the common cold or the flu. The COVID-19 virus is spread in pretty much exactly the same way. Chances are excellent that you will catch this virus if you haven't already. The difference between it and the cold or flu is that it seems (they think) that once you've had the Wuhan Virus you're probably immune from getting it again. If that turns out not to be the case then no amount of sniffer dogs or masks or socialist distancing is going to matter a hill of beans. The best possible effect any such measure could hope to have is to slow down the spread of the disease thus prolonging the amount of time that everyone has to have their crotch sniffed by a dog when they walk into Walmart as well as every other command and control measure this so called "conservative" government has already put in place.

              If you want to give up your freedom for the sake of safety, you go right ahead but don't think I'm going along with it. If you believe it paranoid to think that the government will take your liberty if given the chance then you've been asleep for the last two months - at least. Every crisis that comes along is used as an excuse to take yet more of your freedoms away. We used to be free to speak our mind, to believe what our own conscience demanded and to go where we pleased. Now, stray too far from being a leftist, pervert or atheist and you'd better watch what you say, especially if you happen to be a white male who believes the bible.

              Clete
              Just FYI, Eider is a Brit living in Britain.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by User Name View Post

                Feel free to rip Trump by name, no need to be shy about it. Soon you'll be accused of having "TDS!"
                Hi.....
                Come on..... What is TDS?
                I have no clue.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eider View Post

                  Hi.....
                  Come on..... What is TDS?
                  I have no clue.
                  TDS = "Trump Derangement Syndrome"

                  If you publicly disagree with anything Trump does as president, you have it!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by User Name View Post

                    TDS = "Trump Derangement Syndrome"

                    If you publicly disagree with anything Trump does as president, you have it!
                    Oh dear!
                    I think might have a slight temperature!
                    ​​​​​​But worse, that just could be another pandemic over here. True.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Clete View Post

                      With all due respect, we do not have a conservative government. Far from it. This economic shut down is the most left wing, command and control, big government, socialistic move that any president have ever taken it upon himself to even attempt, never mind actually carry out. The left always seem to get these big quantum leaps in the advancement of their agenda when there is a Republican in the White House and the measure that achieved it always seems to be supported by the right and apposed by the left!

                      And no, it would not make any venue safer. It would only delay the inevitable, if it even did that. Have you read anything about how this virus spreads and how contagious it is? Putting sniffer dogs at the front door of public venues would work as well at preventing the Wuhan Virus as it would work at preventing the common cold or the flu. The COVID-19 virus is spread in pretty much exactly the same way. Chances are excellent that you will catch this virus if you haven't already. The difference between it and the cold or flu is that it seems (they think) that once you've had the Wuhan Virus you're probably immune from getting it again. If that turns out not to be the case then no amount of sniffer dogs or masks or socialist distancing is going to matter a hill of beans. The best possible effect any such measure could hope to have is to slow down the spread of the disease thus prolonging the amount of time that everyone has to have their crotch sniffed by a dog when they walk into Walmart as well as every other command and control measure this so called "conservative" government has already put in place.

                      If you want to give up your freedom for the sake of safety, you go right ahead but don't think I'm going along with it. If you believe it paranoid to think that the government will take your liberty if given the chance then you've been asleep for the last two months - at least. Every crisis that comes along is used as an excuse to take yet more of your freedoms away. We used to be free to speak our mind, to believe what our own conscience demanded and to go where we pleased. Now, stray too far from being a leftist, pervert or atheist and you'd better watch what you say, especially if you happen to be a white male who believes the bible.

                      Clete
                      So, what should the US government have done?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jonahdog View Post

                        So, what should the US government have done?
                        That's the wrong question.

                        It isn't so much that the response was incorrect, especially with the poor information that they had at the time, it's how long it's been permitted to persist and what's been allowed to happen since that's the problem.

                        Try to think back a year ago, before anyone had ever heard of the Wuhan Virus, and image what your response would have been to the idea of the government spending money that they do not have trying to train dogs to sniff out undesirable people at the entrances of stores, restaurants, and other public venues. That does not happen in a free society.

                        And only someone who is so far left that only Communists and outright militarized, jack booted Nazi's reside to his left would think that Trump is "very right wing". He isn't. Far from it. But you'd better be glad that he's as right leaning as he happens to be because as soon as this country goes full socialist, it'll be the end of Europe. The only reason Europe, including England, has lasted this long is by sucking the life blood out of America. As soon as America makes the transition from dog to flea, it'll be all fleas and no dog. That's not a sustainable situation. And if there was ever anything this government could have done to hasten that process, it was shut down our economy for months, spend tens of trillions of our children's and grandchildren's money trying to keep the whole system from collapsing and teaching the whole society that they'll die if they don't follow directions.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by User Name View Post

                          Feel free to rip Trump by name, no need to be shy about it. Soon you'll be accused of having "TDS!"
                          When have you ever experienced me being shy about saying anything about anyone?

                          In terms of what has been accomplished regarding personal and economic freedom and in terms of the President of the United Stated acting like the President of the United States and not the "leader of the free world", Trump is the best president the U.S. has ever had at least since Reagan and probably since Lincoln. Image what could be accomplished if someone who was actually right wing and who truly understood and fully supported the ideas that made this country greater than every country that had ever existed before was in the White House!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by eider View Post

                            Hi.....
                            Come on..... What is TDS?
                            I have no clue.
                            Sigh. It’s a pretend condition made up by trumpateers who practice selective morality ...


                            A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man
                            we can trust with nuclear weapons.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rusha View Post

                              Sigh. It’s a pretend condition made up by trumpateers who practice selective morality ...

                              Hi.....
                              Yes, User Name explained to me in a return-post:-
                              TDS = "Trump Derangement Syndrome"

                              I don't mind such a term, its an opinion within some people so its real to them.

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