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  • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post

    ***rolls eyes*** Gives up.....
    Oh brother
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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    • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
      Those TWO people might not have as good of care, or they might have had depression. You don't know and two people means what? Trump is going by a medical team.

      I don't like the lie about wearing masks don't help. I like it that Trump never jumped on speaking that terrible lie from the CDC and other medical professionals.

      The liberal media wants to jump on Trump and say see he is ignorant not going by the medical professionals. Thank you Trump knowing when they are hiding things and lying. Just like Trump knew the malaria pills works, but even the dr fauci tried to go against him because they want to hide the truth for some reason or another.

      The reason we are told to stay six feet away from each other is because THEY TOLD US NOT TO WEAR MASKS.

      I love Trump because he wants to drain the swamp and doesn't want to lie to us, like most all the people in government do.
      Really....... still banging your political drum, even now. That's political tribalism at its very worst.....,

      Many World leaders are now calling this situation the worst economic and human disaster since WWII and most of us here are tending to unite in a cohesive togetherness......... I just see that whenever I have to go out. ......... and there you are with your sad little drum.

      Go on........... bang your drum. But we certainly don't need any like you here in UK, because you just keep on trying to damage the credibility of top medics who are trying to flatten the curve and keep our medical resources intact.

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      • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post

        ............................................... This is why so many people have gotten the coronavirus on cruise ships. They didn't go hacking a spewing all over each other. The virus was communicated through the central airconditioning/heating system ducts that are an integral part of a cruise ship.
        Very interesting point.
        You just made me think of sickness such as legionnaires which is transmitted through air-conditioning systems.
        I have not heard this mentioned before, and I wonder if air conditioning in large buildings could have transmitted the sickness.

        Have you heard about this or did you just figure it out yourself?

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        • Originally posted by eider View Post

          Very interesting point.
          You just made me think of sickness such as legionnaires which is transmitted through air-conditioning systems.
          I have not heard this mentioned before, and I wonder if air conditioning in large buildings could have transmitted the sickness.

          Have you heard about this or did you just figure it out yourself?
          I figured a lot of it out on my own. I spent 20 years as an HVAC tech so I understand air distribution systems. I've also read reports from the people who went into the cruise ships to decontaminate them after the passengers left and those people were scared stiff as the virus was everywhere and that made perfect sense to me. Air filters, unless a person buys the very expensive HEPA filters, have no chance of stopping something as small as a coronavirus so any room that is heated/cooled in a large building has air circulated through it that has been in every other room in the building served by that system of ductwork. And a lot of buildings have only one HVAC system. Really big buildings have multiple systems due to the logistics of moving that much air, but then you're talking 20 stories or so and taller.

          I used to change air filters at a hospital, worked for an HVAC company who contracted the hospital's HVAC work, and those HEPA filters were a whole other world. Those filter changing days were back in the 80s and even then it was a scary proposition to change the filters because of all the bugs trapped in them. To be safe even then you had to basically dress for hazmat and the bugs now are far deadlier. Hospitals are breeding grounds for super bugs.
          “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
          ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

          “One and God make a majority.”
          ― Frederick Douglass

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          • Originally posted by chair View Post
            ffreeloader, there are some basic issues here, that have nothing to do with Mr. Trump. It is a balancing act between public health and the economy. There is no way to manage this without some damage.
            Really? So that's why I see all the criticism of Trump for thinking about our economic welfare in the huge depression that is now in it's beginning stages? His political enemies know the average US citizen hasn't a clue as to what the economic impact of all this is going to be so they attack him on being cold and uncaring and just politically ambitious. He's proven he's not that. He's proven he thinks about the welfare of the little guy rather than just corporations and state power, unlike all his enemies. They are still playing sick political games with we the people as pawns.
            “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
            ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

            “One and God make a majority.”
            ― Frederick Douglass

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            • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post

              I figured a lot of it out on my own. I spent 20 years as an HVAC tech so I understand air distribution systems. I've also read reports from the people who went into the cruise ships to decontaminate them after the passengers left and those people were scared stiff as the virus was everywhere and that made perfect sense to me. Air filters, unless a person buys the very expensive HEPA filters, have no chance of stopping something as small as a coronavirus so any room that is heated/cooled in a large building has air circulated through it that has been in every other room in the building served by that system of ductwork. And a lot of buildings have only one HVAC system. Really big buildings have multiple systems due to the logistics of moving that much air, but then you're talking 20 stories or so and taller.

              I used to change air filters at a hospital, worked for an HVAC company who contracted the hospital's HVAC work, and those HEPA filters were a whole other world. Those filter changing days were back in the 80s and even then it was a scary proposition to change the filters because of all the bugs trapped in them. To be safe even then you had to basically dress for hazmat and the bugs now are far deadlier. Hospitals are breeding grounds for super bugs.
              Very interesting points, all.
              no doubt you have heard about the US carrier with coronavirus on board.....
              I am surprised that we haven't heard more about air-con probs with this virus.

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              • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

                I think it is still worth more time, and glad that the time has been extended.
                And that time is going to cost lives, along with it saving lives. We can't save everybody, and the cure shouldn't be worse than the disease.
                "Those who believe in Christ" are all the Christians, Catholic or not.

                @Nee_Nihilo

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                • Originally posted by eider View Post

                  Really....... still banging your political drum, even now. That's political tribalism at its very worst.....,

                  Many World leaders are now calling this situation the worst economic and human disaster since WWII and most of us here are tending to unite in a cohesive togetherness......... I just see that whenever I have to go out. ......... and there you are with your sad little drum.

                  Go on........... bang your drum. But we certainly don't need any like you here in UK, because you just keep on trying to damage the credibility of top medics who are trying to flatten the curve and keep our medical resources intact.
                  It was mentioned that two people died who were young. You are the one with the drum. You are the one who mentioned politics. You are the one no one not needed to spread hate and misinformation.
                  Oh how I love the Word of God!

                  Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                  • Originally posted by Idolater View Post
                    And that time is going to cost lives, along with it saving lives. We can't save everybody, and the cure shouldn't be worse than the disease.
                    God can hear you.
                    Oh how I love the Word of God!

                    Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                    • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                      I don't like the lie about wearing masks don't help. I like it that Trump never jumped on speaking that terrible lie from the CDC and other medical professionals..
                      Huh?
                      The BBC reports that President Trump has suggested that people use scarfs to cover their faces, and your CDC is reviewing its advice about face masks by suggesting a new design.

                      Well....?

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                      • Originally posted by eider View Post

                        Huh?
                        The BBC reports that President Trump has suggested that people use scarfs to cover their faces, and your CDC is reviewing its advice about face masks by suggesting a new design.

                        Well....?
                        The CDC and other medical professionals were saying for the citizens not to wear masks and that it won't help.

                        They instructed us on that lie, but Trump didn't instruct us on that lie.

                        He said to use a scarf if we have to if we want.
                        Oh how I love the Word of God!

                        Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                        • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

                          The CDC and other medical professionals were saying for the citizens not to wear masks and that it won't help.

                          They instructed us on that lie, but Trump didn't instruct us on that lie.

                          He said to use a scarf if we have to if we want.
                          If I have to wear a mask, I want to wear a gorilla mask

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                          • Originally posted by eider View Post

                            Huh?
                            The BBC reports that President Trump has suggested that people use scarfs to cover their faces, and your CDC is reviewing its advice about face masks by suggesting a new design.

                            Well....?
                            He's also suggested and actually pretty much flatly stated that America is going to be in for a very tough time the next few weeks...
                            Well this is fun isn't it?

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                            • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

                              The CDC and other medical professionals were saying for the citizens not to wear masks and that it won't help.

                              They instructed us on that lie, but Trump didn't instruct us on that lie.

                              He said to use a scarf if we have to if we want.
                              The biggest threat with this virus is its contagious aspect. You're not going to catch it breathing in the air on a walk so a scarf isn't going to help any not that it would help if it was infectious. A mask might help in as much as you don't touch your nose or mouth after coming into something contaminated but that's about it. Even then you'll need to wash after you've taken it off, same with the scarf.
                              Well this is fun isn't it?

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                              • Originally posted by eider View Post

                                Huh?
                                The BBC reports that President Trump has suggested that people use scarfs to cover their faces, and your CDC is reviewing its advice about face masks by suggesting a new design.

                                Well....?
                                Face masks only work in case of infectious contamination if they have air filters, right?
                                Well this is fun isn't it?

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