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  • #76
    The chart, which "proved" that global wasrming was fudged:



    Notice, it's United States, not Global.

    Barbarian suggests:
    I suspect he never noticed the switch, and was just passing on someone else's dishonesty.

    Stripe discovers that he can read minds:
    He never noticed, but he's dishonest.
    We'll just have to disagree on that one.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
      This polar vortex is from global warming.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
        Notice, it's United States, not Global.
        You keep saying that. Make a point.
        Where is the evidence for a global flood?
        E≈mc2
        "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

        "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
        -Bob B.

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        • #79
          Well, it's from unexpected warm air over the North Atlantic. But weather isn't climate. We can say that disrupted polar vortices aregoing to be more common in the future, but we can't point to any one of them and say it was because of global warming.

          Two natural climate phenomena known as the Arctic Oscillation (AO) and the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) can strongly influence U.S. and European winter weather. Both exhibit positive and negative states, which are usually in sync (below). Extensive losses of Arctic summer sea ice have altered the climate in ways that favor the development of negative AO and NAO conditions, leading to more severe winters. Positive AO and NAO states are characterized by a strong atmospheric high-pressure center (H) in the subtropics 1 and a strong low-pressure center (L) in the subarctic 2. The positive AO is also associated with a strong polar vortex 3, which constrains cold Arctic air to the north 4 and allows warm air from southern latitudes to reach far north into the U.S. and Europe. Under these conditions, the jet stream and the typical track of storms follow a northeastward path across the Atlantic, delivering warmth and moisture to northern Europe. Negative AO and NAO states are characterized by weaker atmospheric pressures in the subtropics 1 and the subarctic 2. The negative AO is also associated with a weakened polar vortex 3, which allows cold air to invade south across the U.S. and northern Europe 4. Under these conditions, the jet stream takes a more sinusoidal path, dipping south over the eastern U.S., cresting over the Atlantic Ocean near Greenland, then dipping again toward southern Europe. Storms tend to follow a more direct, eastward path across the Atlantic, bringing moisture to southern Europe.
          https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...lting-sea-ice/
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          • #80
            Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
            We'll just have to disagree on that one.


            Barbarian disagreeing with himself again. He's such a muddlehead.
            Where is the evidence for a global flood?
            E≈mc2
            "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

            "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
            -Bob B.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Stripe View Post
              You keep saying that. Make a point.
              Go back and read the conversation; I bet if you thought about it a minute, you'd know why presenting data from the United State as data for the world was misleading.

              If not, tell me, and I'll see if I can make it understandable for you.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                Presenting data from the United State as data for the world was misleading.
                Except it was presented as data for the US.

                You're just mad because you haven't got a sensible response.

                If not, tell me, and I'll see if I can make it understandable for you.
                Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                E≈mc2
                "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                -Bob B.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                  Prior to government data tampering, 1934 was the hottest year on record in the US.
                  Go and have a lie down, muddlehead.
                  Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                  E≈mc2
                  "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                  "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                  -Bob B.

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                  • #84
                    Cool off a little, Stripe and we'll talk when you get control of yourself.
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                    • #85
                      https://kluv.radio.com/blogs/miles-m...atures-midwest

                      Yes, #frozenpants is trending right now. Here are some of the best frozen pants pics from around the web today. Enjoy!
                      https://kluv.radio.com/blogs/miles-m...atures-midwest

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                        Cool off a little, Stripe and we'll talk when you get control of yourself.


                        Darwinists will do anything to avoid a sensible discussion.

                        The US data were manipulated to hide a hot 1934, that's the takeaway here.
                        Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                        E≈mc2
                        "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                        "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                        -Bob B.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by User Name View Post
                          Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                          How does the claim that temperatures "are actually decreasing" comport with the fact that hardiness zones are moving north, hmm?
                          The data used for that map is fraudulent because it only starts in 1970, as opposed to the actual data starting from 1918 that shows a cooling trend.

                          The Danger Of Data Tampering

                          Heidi Cullen’s Climate Central released this fraudulent map showing Midwest winters getting hot, which is based on tampered thermometer data.

                          The actual data shows Midwest winters are getting colder.


                          Learn to read what is written.

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                          The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                          ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                            I just realized that genuineoriginal switched a United States temperature record for the world temperature record.

                            The man-made dust bowl led to higher temperatures in the United States, but it didn't affect the world temperatures very much.

                            I suspect he never noticed the switch, and was just passing on someone else's dishonesty.
                            I see that [MENTION=92]The Barbarian[/MENTION] is trying to be dishonest by pretending that there is such a thing as a "world" temperature record when almost all of the temperatures we have recorded are from the United States and western Europe.
                            Learn to read what is written.

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                            The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                            ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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                            • #89
                              a furious barbie angrily shouts:
                              Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                              Cool off a little, Stripe and we'll talk when you get control of yourself.

                              do you feel better now that you've let that all out?

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                                The data used for that map is fraudulent
                                So now you're claiming that the daisies have been fraudulently growing for the past half-century? The hardiness zones are merely descriptions of the behavior of plants over the years. And I don't think claiming that the plants are fraudulent is going to do you much good.

                                This is why switching from global data to U.S. data is really ineffective for you. Even with the dust bowl warming (man-made, BTW) the trend in the United States is for warmer temperatures. Here's the data from your source:



                                As you see, it's getting warmer here, too. Which is why hardiness zones are moving north.

                                because it only starts in 1970, as opposed to the actual data starting from 1918 that shows a cooling trend.
                                See above. From the data you cited.
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