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    story on the cbc this morning:




    The Student Federation of the University of Ottawa is launching an investigation into a dare-filled pub crawl after an exposé published by the school’s student newspaper – but not all students agree it was dangerous.

    The article was published in La Rotonde and written by news editor Yasmine Mehdi, who went undercover at the invite-only event on Oct. 7.

    The event involves a challenge to complete dares for points, including ordering a plate of nachos or giving a piggyback ride. A number of the dares were more sexual, involving genital piercings, bodily fluids and sex between participants.

    Mehdi described the night as sex-filled and alcohol-fueled, attended by around 120 student association representatives. The story includes an interview with one woman who said her team laughed at her when she refused a sexual dare.

    The Science Students' Association, which organized the event, released a statement describing it as ”ill-conceived” and “wrong” and said it will be cancelled.

    Three former participants, who spoke to Metro but did not want to be identified, said they had a much different experience at the event. All three said they personally had fun and weren’t pressured into sexual dares.

    One, who participated in 2007, said he believes that rape culture is a serious issue but said the risk at the Vet’s Tour is no different than other pub crawls or student events.

    “To me, the moral outrage with it is sort of like showing up a nude beach and being disgusted that there are naked people there,” he said.

    “Rape culture is absolutely a real thing that I have experienced elsewhere, but I did not experience it on Vet's Tour,” said a different former student, who participated in 2008.

    http://www.metronews.ca/news/ottawa/...vets-tour.html




    brief summary - students agreed to participate in this "pub crawl" knowing that it involved sex

    students signed consent form agreeing to participate

    students drank a whole bunch and engaged in sex


    guest on call-in show made claim that consent can't be given when inebriated



    question for the peanut gallery: if consent has already been given while sober, can consent be rescinded when inebriated?

  • #2
    "No" means "No" as soon as it is spoken.

    If "No" is a rule violation then throw them out of the event (or call them a cab home).


    *Right now counts forever!

    Romans 14:12
    Matt. 12:36-37

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    • #3
      Originally posted by theophilus View Post
      "No" means "No" as soon as it is spoken.


      /thread

      Not that this thread had any 'purpose' other than baiting and trolling behind it anyway...
      Well this is fun isn't it?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by theophilus View Post
        "No" means "No" as soon as it is spoken.

        even if you're inebriated?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ok doser View Post
          even if you're inebriated?
          Even if you're dying of thirst in the middle of the desert.



          *Right now counts forever!

          Romans 14:12
          Matt. 12:36-37

          !



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          - Desert Reign

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          • #6
            but "yes" doesn't mean "yes" if you're inebriated?

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            • #7
              Why would anyone want to have sex with a drunk?


              *Right now counts forever!

              Romans 14:12
              Matt. 12:36-37

              !



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              • #8
                my wife and often enjoyed a bottle of wine or two before enjoying other things

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                • #9
                  That's beyond me.



                  *Right now counts forever!

                  Romans 14:12
                  Matt. 12:36-37

                  !



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                  - Desert Reign

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                    my wife and often enjoyed a bottle of wine or two before enjoying other things
                    Who's 'Often'?

                    Maybe you should put the bottle down yourself dude.



                    Otherwise, as has already been stated, no means no whether sober, drunk, covered in marmalade, wearing a traffic cone etc etc.
                    Well this is fun isn't it?

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                    • #11
                      Where and when is the next one?

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                      • #12
                        It's sad that a person can pretty much assume the subject just by seeing the mere word 'consent', or the subject coming to mind every time the word is stated. It means that the subject has run itself beyond it's bare rims and is now cratering the earth, all due to people continuing to entertain this never-ceasing victim complex of unprincipled females.

                        Yes, women have been consenting to sex while inebriated and then waking up in the morning and filing charges. By their own damn admission, which is the crazy part, because they assume that morons will either support them or that they won't go challenged.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Crucible View Post
                          It's sad that a person can pretty much assume the subject just by seeing the mere word 'consent', or the subject coming to mind every time the word is stated. It means that the subject has run itself beyond it's bare rims and is now cratering the earth, all due to people continuing to entertain this never-ceasing victim complex of unprincipled females.

                          Yes, women have been consenting to sex while inebriated and then waking up in the morning and filing charges. By their own damn admission, which is the crazy part, because they assume that morons will either support them or that they won't go challenged.
                          'Victim complex of unprincipled females'?

                          Well, complex certainly doesn't apply to you or the OP...

                          Perspex maybe...

                          Well this is fun isn't it?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                            'Victim complex of unprincipled females'?
                            Yes, slatterns who make false claims to get attention or revenge.

                            They exist- don't get mad at anyone who acknowledges it. Shed your numale mentality elsewhere

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Crucible View Post
                              Yes, slatterns who make false claims to get attention or revenge.

                              They exist- don't get mad at anyone who acknowledges it. Shed your numale mentality elsewhere
                              I don't get mad at ya dude. When puberty kicks in you'll probably grow up a bit anyway.

                              Well this is fun isn't it?

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