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  • Creation vs. Evolution

    Dear All,

    It says that God created the Universe, Heaven and Earth, the host of heaven, etc. "And God called the light Day and the darkness Night. And the evening and the morning were the "1st Day". "And God separated and divided the waters which were above and the waters on Earth, and He created the firmament (Heaven). And that was the second day.

    And it goes on further to say that that God created the Earth and Seas; plants and trees. And the evening and the morning were the third day. And in the fourth day, God made the hosts of Heaven, tons of angels and servants (helpers), including the Sun and the Moon, all on one day. And the planets, etc. And Orion and the Big Dipper, so they could be used for signs and for seasons, for days and for years.

    Then it says that on the fifth day, God created great whales and everything in the seas, and He brought forth fowl from the waters to fly in the firmament. And this was alot of work. But for God to create all of that in 24 hours, no big deal. Then, in the sixth day, God created all of the creatures of the Earth, beasts, cattle, mastodons, elephants, beasts, dinosaurs {Ty Rex, Brontosaurus, raptors, etc. Even alligators, crocodiles, tortoises and turtle, armadillo, dinosaurs}. I know much more than these. And all of the creeping critters, and bugs {roaches, millipedes, centipedes, etc}. Then God created Man and then Woman. And all of this was done during the sixth day. Now, God said all He has to do is speak what He wants to envision and that it does not come back to Him Undone. I will find that quote for you soon. That He just gives the word and it is. He is the Master Chemist don't forget. He is Grand and Great, and Omnipotent, and Full Of Love To Give For Those Who Want It. But as loving as He is, yes He has also had to create a bottomless pit in the center of the earth. It has a center and a top (because of gravity) but no bottom, figuratively. It also has hot magma and lava and is Hell. The Lake of Fire is our Sun. And once our Sun burns out, God will provide another sun for the devil to burn in. Now, He does all of these things because He knows what the future would bring, and that man can not help but fall, because they are no match for the devil, Satan. That's why we're having a time now of learning how to choose good from evil, and keeping the good or keeping the evil, or some of both, which makes us have certain personalities.

    Okay, you must realize that when God created Adam, that was roughly back 7 or 8 thousand years? Now when God created Adam, he did not create him as an infant, but instead as a man. Also God did not create a young Universe and planet Earth, or Our Sun and Moon. Instead He created them older. Same with the creatures, cattle, fowl, beasts, creeping things, etc. He did not make eggs, He made already mature bugs, and same with cattle, fowl, etc. You cannot expect that God took more than 6 days to create everything. Okay, am going to get going. This will become my OP on my Creation vs. Evolution thread. It's long overdue. It's a lot easier to explain, too. These things found in amber, etc., must only truly be 7 or 8,000 years. They just look aged for our sakes. OK, will close for now. God Bestow A Big Kiss On Your Foreheads!!

    Michael

    The Lord God has wiped the earth clean before and He will do it nearly again, leaving a third of the Earth's people this time. Remember Noah and his wife, of whom we are all descended from, therefore we are ALL Brothers and Sisters, who don't get along well. Ishmael is the ancestor of all of the Arab people. I hope I've explained this well enough for now. If God decides to wipe us all off of the earth for sin, who would wonder why? Look at this earth and tell me what shape it is in? What are you going to do about it?? Forget your Evolution idea!! There is a Higher Power that oversees every little change in every creature He forms. Every nucleus, atom, genome, DNA, electron, etc. That's all, just for now. Re-read and study, and look in your Bibles. Things are happening that you don't know about yet. But the time is upon us.

    May the Lord God Continue to Bless the Lord Jesus,

    {For the 'Lord' God said to MY 'Lord' Jesus; Sit thou at my right hand until I make thy enemies thy footstool.}

    He is doing just that. Can you understand any of this?? Please, if you have any comments, keep them civil and maybe kind? I'm trying here. My main message is that Jesus is Returning Soon. I am now a YEC (Young Earth Creationist) and have changed some parts of my message here.

    Praise His Greatness and His Intense Imagination, Which Is An Incredible Amazing Thing!!!
    Last edited by MichaelCadry; December 21st, 2014, 06:33 PM.
    www.jesusreturningverysoon.com

  • #2
    Originally posted by MichaelCadry View Post
    ...in each day/generation...You'll notice in the first chapter of Genesis, it says God "Created" each in their 'day' or 'generation'.
    No where in the Bible does it ever state that the days of Genesis are equivalent to "generation". You are making that up.
    fidelis usque ad mortem

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MichaelCadry View Post
      The earth has been here for a few million years.
      It's actually Billions of years, not millions so you're way out from the get go. And there are plenty of educated Christians who accept the evidence for evolution.

      Ken Miller is highly respected for his work in the science of evolution, and was a key witness opposing intelligent design at the Dover trial. He is also a devout Catholic.

      You're not even wrong
      I think it more interesting to be a Rising Ape than a Falling Angel - Terry Pratchet

      ---Science is the poetry of reality---

      Plenty of things happen after you die but none of them will involve you.

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      • #4
        Dear Chatmaggot,

        See Genesis 2:4. These are the 'generations' of the heavens and of the earth when they were 'created,' in the 'day' that the Lord God 'made' the earth and the heavens.

        Also see Genesis 5:1. This is the book of the 'generations' of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made He him.

        In God's Love,

        Michael
        Last edited by MichaelCadry; October 25th, 2014, 01:48 AM.
        www.jesusreturningverysoon.com

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        • #5
          Dear Hedshaker,

          What do you mean by "I'm not even wrong".

          God Bless You Tons,

          Michael
          www.jesusreturningverysoon.com

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MichaelCadry View Post
            Dear Chatmaggot,

            See Gen. 1:5. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Now it does not say how long the evening or the morning was. The Lord told me it was not a 24-hour day, but instead a generation or something generated, no matter how small, but the earth's morning and evening were not 24 hours.

            Also see Genesis 2:4. These are the 'generations' of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the 'day' that the Lord God 'made' the earth and the heavens.

            Also see Genesis 5:1. This is the book of the 'generations' of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made He him... I had this feeling that this all might be over your heads. STUDY Genesis.

            In God's Love,

            Michael
            One evening in the year nineteen hundred and eighty seven, I heard
            rustling noises in my back yard; I rushed towards the window and low and
            behold, spied an entire hoard of Dinosaurs nourishing themselves on
            some of my watermelon trees! I gazed upon them, for what seemed,
            hours then, decided to lay myself down to sleep!

            In the morning, I awoke and decided to investigate the damage
            those huge creatures had, no doubt created! To my utter surprise,
            they evidently cleaned up for themselves! And, in the process, had
            planted some more watermelon trees, in place of the ones they had eaten!

            I immediately notified the local newspaper office and told them about
            my strange encounter! For some inexplicable reason, they said, I should
            go home and get plenty of rest! I thought that was an odd
            response but decided not to pursue any further action! In the past,
            I witnessed several UFO sightings in that same area, and an
            occasional big foot encounter! However, none of those compared
            to my experience with the Dinosaurs!

            Did I mention I saw a Werewolf once and an over-sized colony of
            fire breathing ants??

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MichaelCadry View Post
              Dear Hedshaker,

              What do you mean by "I'm not even wrong".

              God Bless You Tons,

              Michael
              You haven't heard that before, really?

              Ok, it means, you're not just regular wrong, but spectacularly wrong. You need to think this through and perhaps do a little studying. If you want to make a case on an issue it pays to have some clue about what your adversary is claiming. Fortunately, there is a cure for ignorance, it's called education but, as they say, there is no cure for stupidity.

              Religious platitudes and preaching is pointless if you want to engage secular issues.

              Start here

              Hope that helps.
              I think it more interesting to be a Rising Ape than a Falling Angel - Terry Pratchet

              ---Science is the poetry of reality---

              Plenty of things happen after you die but none of them will involve you.

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              • #8
                Evolution is a mathematical impossibility and remains so. Also to many Gaps and lack of evidence. Explain the workings of a single cell and how it evolved.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bradley D View Post
                  Evolution is a mathematical impossibility and remains so. Also to many Gaps and lack of evidence. Explain the workings of a single cell and how it evolved.
                  A mathematical impossibility how, exactly?

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                  • #10
                    Either evolution happened or God is a malicious liar. I prefer to believe God is good and beneficient, so I accept the truth of evolution.
                    "Not everything that is clever, is true."

                    - - St Ephiram of Syria - -

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                    • #11
                      He's all yours, evolutionists.
                      Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                      E≈mc2
                      "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                      "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                      -Bob B.

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                      • #12
                        Dear Hedshaker,

                        Well, I don't know where you got your information cookie, 'cause you don't even come close to what's been going on!

                        I say what I mean. Not like you.

                        God Bless Your Thoughts,

                        mc
                        www.jesusreturningverysoon.com

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                        • #13
                          Dear Grosnick,

                          I knew you'd disagree with me, but it's okay, amigo! Hey, I'm letting most of my threads go into oblivion. I'm just gonna save a couple or so. This one though will be a while. Well, I'm glad you agree to disagree!!

                          To My Buddy Grosnick,

                          Michael
                          www.jesusreturningverysoon.com

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                          • #14
                            OK, I’ll play.

                            Originally posted by MichaelCadry View Post
                            I'm going to tell you what the Lord told me; the facts.
                            I’ll lay money the facts you were told differ from the facts told to others.

                            God wiped the screen blank a number of times indeed. In other words, He created and then obliterated, and formed each animal and bird, and critter and man/woman differently, each time changed in ways He saw fit. Just like He obliterated everyone but Noah and his family.
                            How could you make head or tail of your god’s morals in that case? Why would that kind of god be worthy of worship? You must be its plaything.

                            There is NO EVOLUTION. Tell that to God when you see HIM.
                            Does your god not know this?

                            You'll notice in the first chapter of Genesis, it says God "Created" each in their 'day' or 'generation'. We also cannot ascertain that, in the past million years, 24 hours was the 'day's' length then either.
                            We can. The length of the day 620,000,000 years ago was 22 hours.
                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_f...rical_evidence

                            Remember Noah and his wife, of whom we are all descended from
                            There never was a time of only two humans, or eight humans, or any number lower than about 1000.

                            He will change things as He will a dollhouse. It's His option. What are you going to do about it??
                            If it was a rogue nation we might take up arms against it.

                            Good luck publicising your book.

                            Stuart

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                            • #15
                              Hey Bradley,

                              Good to hear you speak your mind instead of cowering and not saying anything. I don't care how many specialists they have about evolution, 'cause they're wrong. I can't make long posts tonight. It's already 3am and I've got tons of posts to reply to. Thank you and take good care!

                              In Christ's Love Always,

                              Michael
                              www.jesusreturningverysoon.com

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