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MAD is simply a way of understanding what the the Bible teaches.
It does not say anything about "comparative origins of competing Eschatologies" or any other such thing.
ECT What is the true root objection to MAD?
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It does not say anything about "comparative origins of competing Eschatologies" or any other such thing.
NO
Jesus brings them with Him TO Heaven
Jesus isn't ever bringing anyone back to planet earth. The Kingdom is not of this world.
Yes, they "remain" on earth. You claim they "remain", but at the same time you claim they are rapture away.
How can someone "remain" and be raptured away at the same time?
Common sense and Dispensationalism are mutually exclusive.
Yes, I know. I'm not the one claiming Romans 1:16 is for believers today, that would be you.
At one time, the gospel of Christ that Paul preached was to the Jew first. The Apostle Paul tells us it was to the Jew first (Rom 1:16)
I asked for you to show with scripture when and where the gospel of Christ stopped going to the Jew first?
His satanic spam.
"....we now live in the greatest time period since the creation of planet earth……..The kingdom where there is no more death, tears, and sadness exists right now…Yes, we are living in the millennial reign right now.”-Preterist Tet. Craigie
Craigie was gone awhile, attending his annual AD 70/Preterist "bible" conference each year, in the West Bank Area...
Deceiving, Big Top Clown Craigie.
That doesn't defend Futurism.
Catholicism, Calvinists, Orthodox, and just about every other Christian doctrine teaches that Christ will return in the future. Only Preterism teaches otherwise.
Futurism is synonymous with Dispensationalism.
Good one, clownie:
"Tet is a preterist that believes Christ already returned in 70 AD via the Roman Army."-Tambora, on another TOL thread
"Correct, and thanks for making it clear that it was the Roman army that was His return."-stupid Craigie
"The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD. That is what Jesus meant when He said He will return."-Gomer Tet.
=Craigie's "common sense"
You should smile more, Clay Craigie the Clown:
Correct
Correct, and those dead that rose with Christ are reigning with Him right now.
Incorrect.
Those who were alive at His coming, and those who remain (everyone from 70AD to the present) will instantly go and be with Christ Jesus in the Kingdom when they die.
No, there are millions of Christians that have died since 70AD, and upon their death were instantly present with the Lord in the Kingdom. And, there's millions of Christians alive right now.
"But, remember, the Law of Moses was still in place."-Tettie
I asked for you to show us:
Who taught the law of Moses, punk? Who "put it in place?"
Still waiting, slick Craigie.
Not true.
MAD attempts to make the Bible fit what John Nelson Darby and Darby's disciples invented.
That's why MAD falls apart when tested with the Bible.
Explain "the redemption of the body," that is promised respective members of the body of Christ, despite your denial, Craigie pie.
Craigie once again, since he knows RD will pick him apart, goes back to his "Darby" spam.
You loser/mutt.
musterion
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I don't need to defend it. Paul taught futurism. Nothing foretold regarding Christ's return and the Body's gathering to Him has yet happened except in the minds of pathetic allegorists like yourself.
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Nonsense. Your posts are getting more ridiculous lately.
Your understanding of "not of this world" is just plain wrong. It does NOT mean that His kingdom will not exist in the physical world.
Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
The Lord Jesus Christ CLEARLY shows that this "not of this world" is a TEMPORARY situation with the BUT NOW. You anti-MADer's always ignore the BUT NOW's in the Bible.
My bad, I left out crucial words
It says the dead in Christ rise first then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the clouds.
....in Corinthians 15 Paul says we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed in the twink of an eye.
He's been shown "but now is my kingdom not from hence" over and over on TOL, but he still spams his deceitful "not of this world" stumper.
That is his MO on TOL-deceit, and habitual lying, peppered with his "Darby" spam, being so obsessed with allegedly disproving the dispensational approach to interpreting the book.
Wrong.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Those are dead before their resurrection.
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Those are alive before their resurrection.
LA
Tet. also claims that he is taught his AD 70-ism/Preterism by infallible men, much like his Catholic brethren, and their "papa."
Paul died before 70AD.
However, Paul knew the return of Christ Jesus was near:
(Phil 4:5) Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.
You make the Apostle Paul a liar. You want us to believe that "at hand" means 1,900+ years and counting.