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God did not chose people to be saved and not others before they were ever born. That goes against the nature of God.
All people sin and God does not make some people worse sinners so that they won't be saved.
What Does it Mean to be Born Again?
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God did not chose people to be saved and not others before they were ever born. That goes against the nature of God.
All people sin and God does not make some people worse sinners so that they won't be saved.
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"I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Revelation 2:2-5 (KJV)
What does that mean for the Christian of today? How can it be applied to include him?
What does that mean for the Christian of today? How can it be applied to include him?
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I love that scripture. That scripture is about people who were saved, they were saved and know God, but time went on and they became sounding gongs and forgot about how much they loved God. They still spoke truth about God, but they forgot about the joy of the love that is inside them.
Jesus is encouraging those who loved him so much to get back to the love and not be just a sounding gong.
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Those born of the Spirit were chosen to be saved because of the obedience of their heart, their humbleness, their submission, their repentance of sins and willingness to do what God says to do.
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Because only God in the flesh could do that.
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Jesus worked while on earth too, while he taught the new covenant; yet, you say that is not for us. You preach against obedience to the words and work Jesus did while he walked the earth. God, did, not, nail, obedience to Him to the cross.
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You have already decided that those who hear the words of Jesus and try it are sent to hell.
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"Spiritual maturity is not reached by the passing of the years, but by obedience to the will of God. Some people mature into an understanding of God’s will more quickly than others because they obey more readily, they more readily sacrifice the life of nature to the will of God, they more easily swing clear of little determined opinions. It is these little determined opinions, convictions of our own that won’t budge, that hinder growth in grace and makes us bitter and dogmatic, intolerant, and utterly un-Christlike".. . . O.Chambers
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Either time soon, or later, those who are bitter and angry but speak truth, they have forgotten their first love.
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And you should not sleep well yourself for condemning the son who did what the Father wanted.
See the parable of the two sons.
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These are the WORKS that are no more:
The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.
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"Spiritual maturity is not reached by the passing of the years, but by obedience to the will of God. Some people mature into an understanding of God’s will more quickly than others because they obey more readily, they more readily sacrifice the life of nature to the will of God, they more easily swing clear of little determined opinions. It is these little determined opinions, convictions of our own that won’t budge, that hinder growth in grace and makes us bitter and dogmatic, intolerant, and utterly un-Christlike".. . . O.Chambers
You don't get it. "The Just Shall Live By Faith" Romans 1:17. Living by faith does not mean living by laws, rules or religion. It means living and believing that Jesus justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5.
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You are the one who does not get t. The saved live by every word from God.
Matthew 4:4: But he answered and said, it is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. and Luke 4:4: And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
That is what Jesus said to Satan.
Do you really want to keep saying what Satan says?
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Chamber was a Calvinist. Why quote man when you can quote the Word of God?
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"Spiritual maturity is not reached by the passing of the years, but by obedience to the will of God. Some people mature into an understanding of God’s will more quickly than others because they obey more readily, they more readily sacrifice the life of nature to the will of God, they more easily swing clear of little determined opinions. It is these little determined opinions, convictions of our own that won’t budge, that hinder growth in grace and makes us bitter and dogmatic, intolerant, and utterly un-Christlike".. . . O.Chambers
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Because, unlike what you have say, scripture agrees with what Chambers has to say.
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I have living faith. My faith is not dead as yours is. Your faith has not works and is dead. I have faith and works and you say I am condemned.