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Grosnick Marowbe

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EPO seems to think he has ALL the truth he needs in order to preach his false doctrines. He's blind to the truth of the Grace Gospel, which both Jew and Gentile alike are under today, in this Dispensation of Grace. It will not last forever, however. He rejects it as most TOL members do. To their eventual destruction. While there is breath in their lungs and blood surging through their veins, there is hope.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Today, there is only one hope for eternal life and that comes through the Grace Gospel that Paul preached. Romans 2:16 "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
 

Lazy afternoon

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If you had salvation then you would know how one ought act.

LA

If you had salvation, you would know that it has nothing to do with salvation.

Paul never made such a false statement you made.

1Co 6:8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

LA
 

Interplanner

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EPO doesn't understand that there was only one Message being preached by Christ and the Apostles. That was the "Kingdom Gospel" and it was only presented to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. The Gentiles were excluded until the ascended Christ gave the Grace Gospel to the Apostle to the Gentiles, which was Paul.


None of this is true. It was not true when Is 53 and Dan 9 were written either. Nor Abraham's access to justification. Nor David's non-imputed sin. Nice try; it has a certain sense to it, but hinged on too few scriptures, like the 'lost sheep' one.

In Biblical interp, a person should NEVER build a whole doctrine on one isolated incident or saying. And that incident actually shows the opposite; that there was more faith outside Israel than inside.

In the overall context of the NT, Christ did have a phase for assembling missionaries from Israel for later outreach. He seems have had at least 221 ready by the day of Pentecost, but it is the practice, not the exact number, that matters.
 

Interplanner

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EPO seems to think he has ALL the truth he needs in order to preach his false doctrines. He's blind to the truth of the Grace Gospel, which both Jew and Gentile alike are under today, in this Dispensation of Grace. It will not last forever, however. He rejects it as most TOL members do. To their eventual destruction. While there is breath in their lungs and blood surging through their veins, there is hope.


In heaven, we find that the millions of inhabitants sing the song of the Lamb: worthy is he that was slain... We don't find 'Worthy is the Lion of Judah who reconquered the middle east in 2023 and set up a Judaic theocracy for 1000 LITERAL years' only to let it collapse, until the arrival of the NHNE...

We will always be 'under' the one Gospel that Israel tried not to be under when the Law came; Gal 3:17. The Law doesn't switch or void the Promise.
 

Epoisses

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The nations(gentiles) are not 'a nation'. The BOC is not 'a nation' but is composed of believers from all nations.

The Lord Jesus was referring to the little flock in Mt21:43 to which He would give the Kingdom in the age to come Luk 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
. They would not be an 'unIsrael' but a believing remnant of Israel. The Lord promised that in the palingenesia(regeneration) when the Lord ruled from the throne of His glory(the throne of David) that the twelve would sit on twelve thrones ruling over the twelve tribes of Israel Mat 19:28.

Simply: The Messianic Kingdom would be taken from the ruling priests and Pharisees of that generation of Israel and given to another generation of Israel headed by the twelve Apostles(Judas excluded/Mathias included). It would still be the nation of Israel but a different generation of Israel. This has nothing to do with the BOC mystery revealed to the Apostle Paul concerning the gentiles/nations.

Christ wasn't taking away the prophecied Messianic Kingdom from the Jews, but just from some Jews.

The new nation is called the church which you are slowly divorcing yourself from. What passes for church nowadays is debatable. Rejecting or perverting the gospel was the highest sin in the early church so you figure it out.
 

Epoisses

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EPO doesn't understand that there was only one Message being preached by Christ and the Apostles. That was the "Kingdom Gospel" and it was only presented to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. The Gentiles were excluded until the ascended Christ gave the Grace Gospel to the Apostle to the Gentiles, which was Paul.

The Roman centurion rebukes your heresy. He had great faith and you have none.
 

Epoisses

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Today, there is only one hope for eternal life and that comes through the Grace Gospel that Paul preached. Romans 2:16 "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Which if for Jews and Gentiles. Dispensationalists like this dolt split the body of Christ into two parts and build up the walls of separation that Christ and the apostles worked tirelessly to tear down.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal. 3:28,29

Those who have Christ are the seed of Abraham! Praise Jesus!
 

patrick jane

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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Rom. 1:16,17

Only one gospel. The Jews are saved the same way as the Gentiles. No kingdom gospel required.
Romans 1:16, 17 is Paul's gospel of Christ, not what peter and the others were preaching -
 

Epoisses

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Romans 1:16, 17 is Paul's gospel of Christ, not what peter and the others were preaching -

And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Acts. 15:7-9

Jews and Gentiles are both part of Peter's gospel.
 

jamie

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Romans 1:16, 17 is Paul's gospel of Christ, not what peter and the others were preaching -

Is the end result of the gospel of God the same for everyone regardless of ethnicity?

In the first century there were different ministries, and the same is true today, but it is the same Spirit accomplishing the same result.
 

patrick jane

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Is the end result of the gospel of God the same for everyone regardless of ethnicity?

In the first century there were different ministries, and the same is true today, but it is the same Spirit accomplishing the same result.
I'm just making the distinction that Paul received a new gospel directly from the risen ascended Christ, that's all. Only Paul received it, then he spread it to everyone.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Acts. 15:7-9

Jews and Gentiles are both part of Peter's gospel.

It's totally amazing how you can be so consistently wrong every time. That's very puzzling?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Which if for Jews and Gentiles. Dispensationalists like this dolt split the body of Christ into two parts and build up the walls of separation that Christ and the apostles worked tirelessly to tear down.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal. 3:28,29

Those who have Christ are the seed of Abraham! Praise Jesus!

I wish your Laptop posts were made by some sort of "Invisible Ink" type of process. Then, every time you had a mind to post your false doctrine, nothing would appear.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Jaime needs to do an extensive study and reading of Romans through Philemon. (Paul's writings) The alternative would be, she'll remain in ignorance. Not a good place to be.
 
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