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steko said:
The good news(gospel) that the Messianic Davidic Kingdom for national Israel was at hand was not under construction. The details were already constructed by GOD through the prophets.

The Lord was not giving lip-service to the promise made to Him through the prophets that He would rule Israel and planet earth from the throne of David in Zion.

I have no dilemma.

Those that deny the promise of Messiah ruling from David's throne in Jerusalem have the dilemma. They have to use sophisticated arguments to subtily call GOD a liar.
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Christ took the kingdom away from the Jews and gave it to a nation that would bring forth fruit.

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Matt. 21:43
 
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Grosnick Marowbe said:
There were a few exceptions to the proverbial rule. Christ was amazed when He came across a few Gentiles with faith. After all Christ "healed" a number of people from physical illnesses during His ministry. What Scripture do you point to that says they were saved through the "Kingdom Message" though?
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lol. so you're wrong.....again
 
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The great sin of dispensationalism is viewing Israel as only ethnic or of the flesh.

Even a casual reading of the NT shows this to be false.
 
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Grosnick Marowbe

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The Centurian you mentioned earlier wasn't a member of the lost sheep and there wasn't a Grace Gospel in place under the ministry of Paul yet. So, unless the Centurian became a member of the lost sheep how do you suppose he got saved?

By which Gospel would he have been saved through?
 
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Epoisses said:
Christ took the kingdom away from the Jews and gave it to a nation that would bring forth fruit.

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Matt. 21:43
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The nations(gentiles) are not 'a nation'. The BOC is not 'a nation' but is composed of believers from all nations.

The Lord Jesus was referring to the little flock in Mt21:43 to which He would give the Kingdom in the age to come Luk 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
. They would not be an 'unIsrael' but a believing remnant of Israel. The Lord promised that in the palingenesia(regeneration) when the Lord ruled from the throne of His glory(the throne of David) that the twelve would sit on twelve thrones ruling over the twelve tribes of Israel Mat 19:28.

Simply: The Messianic Kingdom would be taken from the ruling priests and Pharisees of that generation of Israel and given to another generation of Israel headed by the twelve Apostles(Judas excluded/Mathias included). It would still be the nation of Israel but a different generation of Israel. This has nothing to do with the BOC mystery revealed to the Apostle Paul concerning the gentiles/nations.

Christ wasn't taking away the prophecied Messianic Kingdom from the Jews, but just from some Jews.
 
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Grosnick Marowbe

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steko said:
The nations(gentiles) are not 'a nation'. The BOC is not 'a nation' but is composed of believers from all nations.

The Lord Jesus was referring to the little flock in Mt21:43 to which He would give the Kingdom in the age to come Luk 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
. They would not be an 'unIsrael' but a believing remnant of Israel. The Lord promised that in the palingenesia(regeneration) when the Lord ruled from the throne of His glory(the throne of David) that the twelve would sit on twelve thrones ruling over the twelve tribes of Israel Mat 19:28.

Simply: The Messianic Kingdom would be taken from the ruling priests and Pharisees of that generation of Israel and given to another generation of Israel headed by the twelve Apostles(Judas excluded/Mathias included). It would still be the nation of Israel but a different generation of Israel. This has nothing to do with the BOC mystery revealed to the Apostle Paul concerning the gentiles/nations.
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Amen.
 
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Grosnick Marowbe

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EPO doesn't understand that there was only one Message being preached by Christ and the Apostles. That was the "Kingdom Gospel" and it was only presented to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. The Gentiles were excluded until the ascended Christ gave the Grace Gospel to the Apostle to the Gentiles, which was Paul.
 
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