Trump: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

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patrick jane

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You still think Trump was wire-tapped by Obama? Where do you get your info? Did you forget the whole two week saga of Trmp teasing evidence that he was tapped that never came?

Sounds to me like you fell for his trap: if he lies long enough then nobody remembers what actually happened, and the issue floats away
You wouldn't know because you watch MSM for your news, but just this week three folks from the Obama administration, Susan Rice, John Brennan and UN Ambassador Samantha Power were subpoenaed to appear before the Intel Committee about "unmasking," This is the biggest scandal since Watergate, look it up.
 

Greg Jennings

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You wouldn't know because you watch MSM for your news, but just this week three folks from the Obama administration, Susan Rice, John Brennan and UN Ambassador Samantha Power were subpoenaed to appear before the Intel Committee about "unmasking," This is the biggest scandal since Watergate, look it up.

Why is that a big deal to you but Comey testifying isn't? Comey testifying is a much bigger deal.

I wasn't a fan of the Obama administration. That's why I voted for Trump, because I wanted something else and I hoped he would provide ghat in a positive way. If they did something wrong and should be prosecuted, so be it. But they're out now. They're not running the country anymore, Trump is. He is the only one who can do further damage at this point.

Do you understand that? This isn't about left and right. This is about our country
 

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Why is that a big deal to you but Comey testifying isn't? Comey testifying is a much bigger deal.

I know you are expecting earthshaking testimony but, I expect it to be a disgruntled former employee attempting to pull a hit job on his former employer. We will see if he has anything substantive to offer...I am not counting on it though.

I wasn't a fan of the Obama administration. That's why I voted for Trump, because I wanted something else and I hoped he would provide ghat in a positive way. If they did something wrong and should be prosecuted, so be it. But they're out now. They're not running the country anymore, Trump is. He is the only one who can do further damage at this point.

Do you understand that? This isn't about left and right. This is about our country

Greg, you need to understand that any candidate other than Hillary would have incurred the same level of hatred as Trump (probably Hillary as well) has received, and to be fair the same level of hatred that Obama received when he took office, and no it was not because he was black but, rather that he and his ilk espouse marxism as their ideology. The days of polite public discourse are over, the battle lines are drawn, and the fight now is either to keep our constitutional republic, or scrap it for the marxist/socialist model that the left have been planning for this country for decades...pick a side.
 

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You wouldn't know because you watch MSM for your news, but just this week three folks from the Obama administration, Susan Rice, John Brennan and UN Ambassador Samantha Power were subpoenaed to appear before the Intel Committee about "unmasking," This is the biggest scandal since Watergate, look it up.

:think: This administration, headed by Trump, WILL be a much bigger scandal than Watergate. All this unmasking talk is just another attempt by Trump to continue his never-ending squirrel hunt of a presidency.
 

rocketman

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:think: This administration, headed by Trump, WILL be a much bigger scandal than Watergate. All this unmasking talk is just another attempt by Trump to continue his never-ending squirrel hunt of a presidency.

The leaking & the unmasking is the story, it is bigger than watergate, and yes that scandal will break free of this Russia nonsense that has no basis in fact but, is a grandiose smokescreen to hide the criminal activities of the former administration. You marxist libs have been running this squirrel hunt, and it will blow up in your face when it breaks free.
 

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I know you are expecting earthshaking testimony but, I expect it to be a disgruntled former employee attempting to pull a hit job on his former employer. We will see if he has anything substantive to offer...I am not counting on it though.



Greg, you need to understand that any candidate other than Hillary would have incurred the same level of hatred as Trump (probably Hillary as well) has received, and to be fair the same level of hatred that Obama received when he took office, and no it was not because he was black but, rather that he and his ilk espouse marxism as their ideology. The days of polite public discourse are over, the battle lines are drawn, and the fight now is either to keep our constitutional republic, or scrap it for the marxist/socialist model that the left have been planning for this country for decades...pick a side.

I respectfully disagree. I think any candidate would've been hit hard yes, but not like this. No other candidate in history has created their own messes like Trump has. Over and over and over. His Twitter has a lot to do with it too, as it creates a record of his inconsistent thinking.

I also don't recall any other Republican candidate being particularly fond of Trump. Rubio, Bush, Paul, Carson, Perry, others all spoke out against him and had good points. Ironically some of them now work for Trump.

What I'm concerned about, other than possible foreign collusion, is that Trump will put every Republican congressman between a rock and a hard place, and that will result in a landslide victory for Democrats in 2018 similar to the landslide victory the Republicans just got
 

glorydaz

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You still think Trump was wire-tapped by Obama? Where do you get your info? Did you forget the whole two week saga of Trmp teasing evidence that he was tapped that never came?

Sounds to me like you fell for his trap: if he lies long enough then nobody remembers what actually happened, and the issue floats away

I have no doubt Trump was wiretapped. Every single phone call he made was leaked to the press. Obama did the same to other countries. I think you've fallen in the trap of believing Obama was perfect and Trump is a demon. It'll all come out. They're just now getting to the unmasking done by Obama's team. It will come out....it always does.
 

glorydaz

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So Trump didn't call the Russians to tell them that he had "fired that nutjob Comey" to "ease pressure" on him? Did you forget about that too?

Yep, he did say it and it's true. Comey did the exact same thing with Clinton.....string it along....string it along. How quickly you forget. Trump wanted the media-whore gone so the witch hunt would come to a close.



Too much Hannity for you, I think. He's better in small doses

You need a bit of Hannity to wean you from the MSM. You folks don't even get to hear most of the real news.
 

Greg Jennings

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I have no doubt Trump was wiretapped. Every single phone call he made was leaked to the press. Obama did the same to other countries. I think you've fallen in the trap of believing Obama was perfect and Trump is a demon. It'll all come out. They're just now getting to the unmasking done by Obama's team. It will come out....it always does.
As I've stated before, I was not a fan of the Obama administration. I never voted for him, and I voted for Trump this last time around.

I believe that info refutes your above assertions. What does Trump saying to the Russians, "I fired that nutjob Comey to ease pressure on me" mean to you? What pressure could he be referring to?
 

Greg Jennings

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Yep, he did say it and it's true. Comey did the exact same thing with Clinton.....string it along....string it along. How quickly you forget. Trump wanted the media-whore gone so the witch hunt would come to a close.





You need a bit of Hannity to wean you from the MSM. You folks don't even get to hear most of the real news.
I listen to him every couple of days. Not the whole radio show, but bits of it. I think he's wrong half the time and the other half I find myself agreeing. Sometimes I listen to Levine too.

The difference between us here is that I supplement my conservative news sources with an equal dose of CNN. I get both sides. And because I get both sides, I can make better decisions on what is going on because I'm not getting a one way biased viewpoint, as you and much of the country prefers to do. You listen to what you like, not necessarily what is true
 

patrick jane

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:think: This administration, headed by Trump, WILL be a much bigger scandal than Watergate. All this unmasking talk is just another attempt by Trump to continue his never-ending squirrel hunt of a presidency.
I'm sorry you have false hope that Trump will be out as President. 7.6 more years Rusha
 
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patrick jane

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I can see it now, when the investigations find NOTHING, the left will cry and scream that the investigations weren't fair and thorough
 

patrick jane

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:think: This administration, headed by Trump, WILL be a much bigger scandal than Watergate. All this unmasking talk is just another attempt by Trump to continue his never-ending squirrel hunt of a presidency.
It's more than "talk" - Russia is talk
 

patrick jane

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No it's not ... every patriotic American understands that Trump conspired with Russia and that he (and his buddy Putin) are a danger to America.
Every Real American knows Trump is a guy who left his billionaire life to be a great President for ALL Americans
 
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