Trump - Is He The Best President Ever?

Trump - Is He The Best President Ever?

  • No, but he's the best in my lifetime

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Grosnick Marowbe

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Notice that Trump supporters have given up trying to defend the indefensible and shifted their strategy to make "Trump worship" the "litmus test" for one's "patriotism" and Christianity!

This stands in marked contrast with the Bible which makes it abundantly clear that our first loyalty should not be to secular institutions and that the wealthy should expect to be dealt with harshly come Judgement Day!

Conservatives have become "enablers" for Trump - rationalizing, making excuses and/or ignoring a daily diet of "bad behaviour" because for them "the ends justify the means!

Your opinion doesn't seem to register in the 'World of Reality versus imagination.' Why is that?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Some even stranger than that. But it depends on a simple fallacy; we are, all of us, connected to a vast number of people. If, (as the Clinton Body Count conspiracy theorists do) go to associates, of associates, of associates of associates of a person, there are hundreds of thousands of people. So it's not surprising that a lot of people somehow connected to Reagan have ended up dead in mysterious or unexplained ways. And of course, with a prominent person, there are many, many more people somehow connected to them.

The people who buy such stories usually never consider such things, and are easy prey for those peddling the scams.

The usual technique:

“Body count” lists are not a new phenomenon. Lists documenting all the allegedly “suspicious” deaths of persons connected with the assassination of John F. Kennedy have been circulating for decades, and the same techniques used to create and spread the JFK lists have been employed in the Clinton version:

List every dead person with even the most tenuous of connections to your subject. It doesn’t matter how these people died, or how tangential they were to your subject’s life. The longer the list, the more impressive it looks and the less likely anyone is to challenge it. By the time readers get to the bottom of the list, they’ll be too weary to wonder what could possibly be relevant about the death of people such as Bill Clinton’s mother’s chiropractor.
Play word games. Make sure every death is presented as “mysterious.” All accidental deaths are to be labelled “suspicious,” even though by definition accidents occur when something unexpected goes wrong. Every self-inflicted death discussed must include the phrase “ruled a suicide” to imply just the opposite. When an autopsy contradicts a “mysterious death” theory, dispute it; when none was performed because none was needed, claim that “no autopsy was allowed.” Make liberal use of words such as ‘allegedly’ and ‘supposedly’ to dismiss facts you can’t support or contradict with hard evidence.
Make sure every inconsistency or unexplained detail you can dredge up is offered as evidence of a conspiracy, no matter how insignificant or pointless it may be. If an obvious suicide is discovered wearing only one shoe, ignore the physical evidence of self-inflicted death and dwell on the missing shoe. You don’t have to establish an alternate theory of the death; just keep harping that the missing shoe “can’t be explained.”
If the data doesn’t fit your conclusion, ignore it. You don’t have to explain why the people who claimed to have the most damaging goods on Clinton (e.g., Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, Monica Lewinsky, Kenneth Starr), are still walking around unscathed while dozens of bit players have been bumped off. It’s inconvenient for you, so don’t mention it.
Most important, don’t let facts and details stand in your way! If you can pass off a death by pneumonia as a “suicide,” do it! If a cause of death contradicts your conspiracy theory, claim it was “never determined.” If your chronology of events is impossible, who cares? It’s not like anybody is going to check up on this stuff …

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/false-clinton-body-bags/

You sure waste a lot of time posting things that won't be read? Oftentimes, your posts are; long in length and short on logic and reason.
 

The Barbarian

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I told you it was sin.

A sin you wish to be done

Why lie about something so easy to refute? You already know that I don't want people to sin; you just threw that in because you were upset. It might feel good now, but now you'll have to live with it here.

with no legal consequence.

The founders set up this nation with the idea that every man should be free to do as he would, so long as he didn't harm others. The purpose of government is not to make people good. If you look at states of the sort you want, you'll see nothing but oppression and horror. The founders cited the disasters in Europe as a reason they wanted nothing to do with the sort of state you want.

I do want there to be a legal consequence.

What if they then made lying a crime? You'd lose your freedom.

The ones supporting Trump's sexual misconduct of adultery are...

You and every other person who gives him a pass on it. You claim you want people like Trump imprisoned, but you actually want him to be president. Do you really think anyone can't see that?
 

Arthur Brain

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A sin you wish to be done with no legal consequence.
I do want there to be a legal consequence.
The ones supporting Trump's sexual misconduct of adultery are you two morons, not me.

By what? Not supporting him, not condoning or extolling cheating, not fawning over the crank and not wanting hyper religious zealot laws in place?

Can't make this stuff up.

:dizzy:
 

Arthur Brain

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Does anyone on TOL really care what you think, is sin and what isn't? Well, perhaps, Barb cares, so you have at least, one fan who'll stand by you through thick and thin.

I thought you were just gonna refer to me with "hi" in posts and some childish neg reps saying the same dumb thing Gros, so you obviously care enough to respond ya daft crank.
 

Arthur Brain

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Good question. I'm betting AB doesn't have a good answer.

No doubt it wouldn't be considered a 'good' answer by your self esteemed self but it was in fact answered. According to you, however, a thrice married adulterer is a supposed blessing on America through divine decree.

Almost hilarious.
 

Arthur Brain

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Do you have any PROOF to back what he supposedly said? If not, then, you're just doing some lying. Do you consider 'lying' to be a sin?

Not exactly solid ground for you to be pointing a finger at anyone if you consider lying to be a sin GM. You're far from innocent in that department yourself.
 

Arthur Brain

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Barbarian observes:
I told you it was sin.



Why lie about something so easy to refute? You already know that I don't want people to sin; you just threw that in because you were upset. It might feel good now, but now you'll have to live with it here.



The founders set up this nation with the idea that every man should be free to do as he would, so long as he didn't harm others. The purpose of government is not to make people good. If you look at states of the sort you want, you'll see nothing but oppression and horror. The founders cited the disasters in Europe as a reason they wanted nothing to do with the sort of state you want.



What if they then made lying a crime? You'd lose your freedom.



You and every other person who gives him a pass on it. You claim you want people like Trump imprisoned, but you actually want him to be president. Do you really think anyone can't see that?

This is why she won't answer posts in full because she can't answer point by point and will just "respond" with a soundbite.
 

Rusha

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No doubt it wouldn't be considered a 'good' answer by your self esteemed self but it was in fact answered. According to you, however, a thrice married adulterer is a supposed blessing on America through divine decree.

Almost hilarious.

Not really ... Trump has turned the US into a laughing stock. He is such an embarrassment.
 

Arthur Brain

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He never does.
Got them thick dark liberal blinders on.

Pffft, you just don't have an answer is all. You're dumb enough to fawn over Trump just as you were asinine enough to post them nauseating David Duke videos and you're just running away from the double standard you've set up for yourself. You're the hyper zealot who would have laws jailing people for simply having a monogamous relationship outside of marriage and you're the one who thinks that current joke will make America "great again". Where it comes to being thick, then take a look in the mirror.
 

Arthur Brain

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It's liberals that are trying to turn America into wussy laughingstock, not Trump.

So, you reckon most "conservatives" would support your zealous measures where it comes to "sexual misconduct"? You think the average American citizen would go along with laws that jail couples for having relations where they're unmarried?
 

The Barbarian

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So, you reckon most "conservatives" would support your zealous measures where it comes to "sexual misconduct"? You think the average American citizen would go along with laws that jail couples for having relations where they're unmarried?

Except for Trump, of course. She thinks he should be rewarded for it.
 

Arthur Brain

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Except for Trump, of course. She thinks he should be rewarded for it.

If she were consistent she'd be supporting him being impeached for committing a 'crime' that in her words, deserves to have the key thrown away. But, he's gonna "make America great again"!

:roses:

Obviously he would never introduce laws that tackle "sexual misconduct" as Tam would have either but hey...

MAGA!
 
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