Trump Has A Mandate

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i woulda spent it on pizza and beer :idunno:

As would many.
That's why they decided they needed to take some decisions away from people. Like what to do with 6.2 Percent of your money.
To take care of you, when you're old or disabled.
Trouble is it won't be there when you old because it will be broke.
 

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Many find it hypocritical that Ron Paul says that SS is unconstitutional yet partakes in the program.

Cause you can't opt out. :think:

I highly doubt that the government is going to force anyone to collect SS benefits. Why doesn't Ron Paul just give those funds to his favorite charity (survivors of overdosed drug addicts) instead of reaping the benefits of an unconstitutional program?
 

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Back to those Trumpeteers who claim they like limited government yet use every social program out there. I assume that you're one of them (even if you didn't vote for Trump).

I pay Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and Federal and State Taxes on every paycheck if that is what you mean by "Use every Social Program".

Donald Trump is known for using government resources to enhance his wealth (bankruptcy laws, eminent domain), I'm just pointing out that several TOL Trump supporters are using bureaucratic government programs to do the same.

It's so...un Libertarian of them.
 

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hush moron

Those of us who pay taxes for your free! free! free! schooling that you brag about (undoubtedly along with free schooling comes food stamps and free housing), certainly aren't getting our money's worth if that is the best you can do to defend your degenerate candidate and your fellow leeches off of society.
 

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i'll prolly hire somebody to figger it out for me :idunno:


my nephew's a CPA :)

It's a shame that it takes one.
I wonder how many old geezers don't collect their benefits cause they don't know about stuff like that.
 

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Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Back to those Trumpeteers who claim they like limited government yet use every social program out there. I assume that you're one of them (even if you didn't vote for Trump).



Donald Trump is known for using government resources to enhance his wealth (bankruptcy laws, eminent domain), I'm just pointing out that several TOL Trump supporters are using bureaucratic government programs to do the same.

It's so...un Libertarian of them.

Social Security is not "Enhancing the Wealth" for most people. It is taking 6.2 Percent of your efforts your entire life to give you a pittance for the last decade if you live that long.
 

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Social Security is not "Enhancing the Wealth" for most people. It is taking 6.2 Percent of your efforts your entire life to give you a pittance for the last decade if you live that long.

Care to talk about Donald Trump using government programs to enhance his wealth now?

Exposing How Donald Trump Really Made His Fortune: Inheritance from Dad and the Government's Protection Mostly Did the Trick
A film excerpt tells the real story about how Trump got so obscenely rich.
http://www.alternet.org/story/15623..._government's_protection_mostly_did_the_trick

Donald Trump: The Bailout Billionaire
http://www.faireconomy.org/the_self_made_myth_infographic

Library boy has to have someone to look up to when it comes to mooching off of society.
 

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Care to talk about Donald Trump using government programs to enhance his wealth now?

Exposing How Donald Trump Really Made His Fortune: Inheritance from Dad and the Government's Protection Mostly Did the Trick
A film excerpt tells the real story about how Trump got so obscenely rich.
http://www.alternet.org/story/15623..._government's_protection_mostly_did_the_trick

Library boy has to have someone to look up to when it comes to mooching off of society.

No, I want you to tell me what you are going to do about your social security benefit.
Are you going to collect it or not?

And after you grace us with your solution as to what to do about a system that you've paid into your whole life let's talk about the fact that you employer matches your contribution.

Matches. Your. Contribution.

So The Donald with 23,000 employees deducts 6.2 percent of each employees paycheck, then doubles it out of his pocket, then sends that big ole check to SSA every payroll.

Do you realize that your employer matches your contribution?
Your money is only half the money we're talking about when we're talking about how much money we pour into SSA.

The Donald, as an Employer, pays half of what goes into SSA on behalf of his employees.

Complain all you want about a this or that with The Donald but he actually runs an empire. And he knows that he has to get the most out of every dollar to make payroll and all the matches for all the social programs, and then have a 401k for his people because the SS that they pay will be bankrupt, and Health Insurance because the Medicare and Medicaid deducted from every check is for them but not now.

Trump is an engine that drives this economy, just like all the other small employers that do most of the working and paying,
 

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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Care to talk about Donald Trump using government programs to enhance his wealth now?

Exposing How Donald Trump Really Made His Fortune: Inheritance from Dad and the Government's Protection Mostly Did the Trick
A film excerpt tells the real story about how Trump got so obscenely rich.
http://www.alternet.org/story/156234..._did_the_trick

Donald Trump: The Bailout Billionaire
http://www.faireconomy.org/the_self_...th_infographic

Library boy has to have someone to look up to when it comes to mooching off of society.

No, I want you to tell me what you are going to do about your social security benefit.
Are you going to collect it or not?

LOL...I didn't think that you wanted to deal with reality and talk about Donald Trump. How about you see if the author of this thread (who I believe is on disability income) can change the subject title to "aCW has a mandate" and we can forget about the socialist policies of President Elect Donald Trump and talk about a blogger on the internet?
 

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How about you see if the author of this thread (who I believe is on disability income) can change the subject title to "aCW has a mandate" and we can forget about the socialist policies of President Elect Donald Trump and talk about a blogger on the internet?
Wrong again aCW -
 

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Unless you can tie the ideologies in play to the regions then they aren't regional interests. I think there could be some ideas behind that, but I haven't seen you make that case. You say birds of a feather flock together but why does it matter where the birds are flocking to? It might even be true that flocking together matters more in an EC system because then flocks can tip states in their favor to increase their electoral votes. Under a national popular vote then the country could be politically segregated and it wouldn't matter. What would matter is the voting preference of each individual person.

There is no national popular vote, nor will there be anytime in the near future. I am not attempting to make a case, just an observation that the left in this nation hates this country, it's constitution, it's form of government, and want a European style of socialist democracy. I also observe that for this "faction" of society to realize the goal of their utopian dream they have to trash the constitution to do it. You don' have to agree with my observation but, I believe what we have is a classic clash of ideologies, and the one not holding a written constitution is the faction that is losing on the local, state, & national levels, furthermore our republic was designed so that a populace majority does not necessarily rule unless they have a plurality of states as well...it is as simple as that, and liberals cannot sell this marxist failure without majority rule.
 

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There is no national popular vote, nor will there be anytime in the near future. I am not attempting to make a case, just an observation that the left in this nation hates this country, it's constitution, it's form of government, and want a European style of socialist democracy. I also observe that for this "faction" of society to realize the goal of their utopian dream they have to trash the constitution to do it. You don' have to agree with my observation but, I believe what we have is a classic clash of ideologies, and the one not holding a written constitution is the faction that is losing on the local, state, & national levels, furthermore our republic was designed so that a populace majority does not necessarily rule unless they have a plurality of states as well...it is as simple as that, and liberals cannot sell this marxist failure without majority rule.

Good post.
 
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