keypurr
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Yes it does, that was the spirit son speaking through Jesus. Jesus was not at the creation.
Do you think the Creation was done by a man?
The express image of a spirit is a spirit not a man.
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Yes it does, that was the spirit son speaking through Jesus. Jesus was not at the creation.
Do you think the Creation was done by a man?
The express image of a spirit is a spirit not a man.
An exact replica my friend. He is as the Father is. There is no difference. He was God come to earth to set us free from our sin.
You err. He is the eternal God. Otherwise He is as the JW's say, another God.
1 John 1:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
keypurr
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You err. He is the eternal God. Otherwise He is as the JW's say, another God.
1 John 1:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
There is nothing in these verses that contradict my thoughts BR.
John was not speaking of Jesus, it is the spirit IN him that was at the creation. He is not the eternal God for he is an image, a creature, a creation. Believe your Bible. Only the Father existed until he created his spirit son. God created all things through his spirit son. You need to deal with that to find truth.
I believe the spirit son existed before time so that would satisfy your eternal statement.
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What is the eternal life that was with the Father. Since you won't say it, I will. It was the Son, who would come to dwell among us (John 1:14).
keypurr
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I did say it, read my post again. But the son that is eternal is Not Jesus. It is the express image spirit son, not a man.
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Before Jesus was in the flesh he was God the Father with a body in heaven.
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Your beliefs make two Sons.
keypurr
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One spirit that became flesh is one son. The son became flesh in the body God prepared for it. Hebrew 10:5
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So then what was the point of the virgin birth?
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You misunderstand and have misinterpreted the scriptures for a long time friend. Jesus is the eternal Son of God.
Luke 2:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Matthew 1:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
keypurr
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Not so. The Father and Son are two separate spiritual beings.
Did he not say if you believe in God believe also in me?
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These verses right here refute everything you've said so far, Keypurr.
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keypurr
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Your still stuck in the church rut my friend. Jesus was born as a man and did not exist before then.
Jesus is the flesh son of God, he is the body prepared for the spiritual son to become flesh in.
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BR, you mind posting those verses again for Keypurr, i don't think he gets it yet.
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So you do not believe that Jesus was placed in Mary's womb by the Holy Ghost?
keypurr
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He has sent them many times in the past JR. They do not conflict with my thoughts.
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Oh, He gets it. It is just that accepting it destroys his belief system.
keypurr
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Where did I say that?
Jesus is the flesh son of God and Mary. But he is not the son that was at the creation.
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