In your opinion, what do they need to hear?
The "L" in TULIP Means that Jesus is NOT Lord
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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In your opinion, what do they need to hear?
Christ's death and subsequent resurrection, paid for the sins
of all mankind. It made available God's forgiveness, mercy,
righteousness, and eternal life for those who would place all
their faith in Christ as their Savior. To those who reject God's
free gift, they will stand before God the Father and be judged
by their works and condemned to the Lake of Fire along with
the Devil and his angels.
All one needs to do is, hear the Grace Gospel and place their
faith in Christ, to gain eternal life. They are then, sealed, indwelt,
and placed into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit. They also
receive the righteousness of Christ.
popsthebuilder
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My opinion is irrelevant.
Seems that most here could use some reawuaintance with the word of God via any avinue available as the constant backbiting, hypocritical judgment, and accusations are NOT what we have been taught as Christians by the teachings and sacrifice of Jesus the Christ. I personally come here to learn of the beliefs of others and more often than not comolt Ely dumbfounded by the amount of unbridalled hate that seems to fill the place to the brim. It is a shame. Say you think someone's view is wrong. It happens. What is the most effective way to bring them into the light of God? It sure isn't by bashing them, mocking their intellect, or taking it upon yourself to condemn them to hell fire.
You word you in my usage, here is not referring to any one person.
Peace
Seems that most here could use some reawuaintance with the word of God via any avinue available as the constant backbiting, hypocritical judgment, and accusations are NOT what we have been taught as Christians by the teachings and sacrifice of Jesus the Christ. I personally come here to learn of the beliefs of others and more often than not comolt Ely dumbfounded by the amount of unbridalled hate that seems to fill the place to the brim. It is a shame. Say you think someone's view is wrong. It happens. What is the most effective way to bring them into the light of God? It sure isn't by bashing them, mocking their intellect, or taking it upon yourself to condemn them to hell fire.
You word you in my usage, here is not referring to any one person.
Peace
popsthebuilder
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My spelling is generally poor. This is compounded when speaking of emotionally weighted topics. I apologize.
Peace
Peace
Use "Spell Check" on your Laptop.
popsthebuilder
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Thanks wise ***. I'm on a phone with limited viewing capacity and a spell check that is temperamental to say the least. Thanks for trying to help. Didn't really mean the whole wise *** thing.
Peace.
Just trying to help you. Seems you have the same bad attitude
of those you were speaking of. Watch the nasty language, you
could be reported?
popsthebuilder
New member
Thought I said thanks for the attempt and apozogised for saying you were being a wise ***. *** isn't a curse its a donkey.
No poor attitude here.
Peace
AMEN! to that. But I don't think that he got it.
This thread concerning the "L" in TULIP needs to be reviewed by all and especially by those who are Calvinist.
If Jesus did NOT atone for all of the sins of the world, then Jesus is NOT Lord and should be removed from his position at the right hand of God.
If Jesus did NOT atone for all of the sins of the world, then Jesus is NOT Lord and should be removed from his position at the right hand of God.
Brother Ducky
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This is a statement you have made on multiple threads and in multiple posts.
Prove it. Or at least make a case for it, rather than just make unsupported blanket statements.
beloved57
Well-known member
Unscriptural comments !
What do you need to fall on you before you see the truth? Hebrews 1:3.
Brother Ducky
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Not sure what the verse is supposed to support, but I believe it to be true.
I do not need to have anything to fall on me. I would like to support your blanket statement, however. You make a statement in an "if...then" format. Certainly a possible way of stating things. But not all things that can be put into this form are correct. If any apple is red, then Pate is wrong.
I am sure you would not agree with the last statement. Why should I believe what you say without some support.
The key to understanding the Gospel is to believe that..."JESUS IS LORD".
If Jesus has NOT defeated sin, death and the devil and reconciled the world unto God then Jesus is NOT Lord.
Your Calvinist doctrine will not allow you to believe that Jesus has atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2 and is Lord.
To NOT believe that Jesus is Lord means that you will die in your sins.
Brother Ducky
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Of course we believe that he atoned for the sins of the whole world, Jews and Gentiles, all who are saved in the whole world are saved by Jesus.
So if he atoned for the sins of those whom are chosen and not all individuals, how is he not Lord?
You are in trouble with the scriptures.
If Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world, which you now say you believe. Then salvation has been provided for the whole world.
This means that now... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
"Whosoever" means ALL, ANYONE, EVERYONE that calls on the name of the Lord.
musterion
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Of course he meant "world" as "world of the elect only." If not, he believes in TUUIP.
Brother Ducky
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No problem whatsoever with Romans 10:13. The "all" is conditional. It does not say that all, meaning every human being can call on the Lord.
Again, I think that "world" in this case = Jews + Gentiles. Not every human being.
Why is it you cannot give God the benefit of the doubt?
There are only two kinds of people in the world, Jews and Gentiles.
The "all" is NOT conditional. It means the same thing as this..."That he by the grace of God should taste death for EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.
You are in denial of the scriptures, the Gospel, and the Holy Spirit and it appears that you are determined to go to hell.