When one comes to Christ as a repentant sinner to be saved by him, God seals him with the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 1:13 and spiritually places him "In Christ" Colossians 3:3. The Holy Spirit is God's mark of ownership. All that posses the Holy Spirit will magnify the work and the person of Jesus Christ.
Renounce Your Worthless Religion and Trust in Christ Alone
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When one comes to Christ as a repentant sinner to be saved by him, God seals him with the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 1:13 and spiritually places him "In Christ" Colossians 3:3. The Holy Spirit is God's mark of ownership. All that posses the Holy Spirit will magnify the work and the person of Jesus Christ.
beloved57
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Promoting salvation by works of the law, denying that Christ death alone saved them He died for!
The Bible plainly teaches that Jesus died for EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9.
But that refutes your idol, so you reject it, going against God's word.
beloved57
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How can you trust in Christ when u teach that sinners He came to seek and to Save do perish in their sins anyways?
Will these people who possess the Holy Spirit kill, steal, lie, fornicate, worship another god...worship the same God differently?...or live and love JUST AS He did...
beloved57
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Those Christ died for are made righteous by His obedience Rom 5:19
beloved57
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Will they live in pride and self righteousness like you do ?
He died for all...whosoever believeth in Him shall have eternal life...many do
Not all...
I hardly think so. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ.
Jesus died for the sins of EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9.
beloved57
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Those Christ lived and died for are made Righteous Rom5:19!
The y are made righteous by His obedience. Now are all made Righteous by His obedience ? Yes or No ?
beloved57
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Those Christ died for are made righteous Rom 5:19 So He died for everyone made righteous!
Jesus has reconciled us and the whole world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
So that NOW... "Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
Renounce your Calvinist God and live.
Oh is that what he is going on about?
That does explain a lot...
Was wondering about his "He obeyed so I don't have to"...
Umm sure...just like He is a doorway...but we still have to choose to enter and follow His path...
He merely secured the door is open and path completed...we have to enter and begin to walk with fear and trembling...
He died and secured the opportunity to be saved for all...but narrow is that path and few they that take it...
The pattern and template is set...faith first then obedience...
Noah had faith and then built the ark...
Was found blameless before that...
Abraham had faith and then obeyed...having rejected his fathers idols before that
The idea that God would indeed kill the first born was believed and then the lamb was killed to be passed over...
They rejected the eyqptian gods before that and knew themselves as Hebrews...
Moses David Ruth Peter Paul all the heroes were given a chance to choose first then obey...after having been called after demonstrating a desire to obey...the cross merely guaranteed their choice...
"No one can come to me unless the Father draws Him"...now what would cause the God of the universe to draw one towards His Son?
A proven willingness to obey...
Nanja
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Pate, you relentlessly preach a twisted false gospel of salvation by works a person does!
Before a person can call upon the Lord for Salvation in a way that pleases God, they must first be made Spiritually Alive / Born Again / Quickened by the Holy Spirit Rom. 8:9, because scripture attests to the fact that those who are in the flesh can't please God by anything they do Rom. 8:7-8!
Ps. 80:18
18 So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name.
So those Christ died for shall call upon Him as a reaction to their being quickened, made Spiritually Alive / Born again, realizing what He has done for them!
Rom. 8:14-17
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye
have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
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beloved57
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Those Christ died for are made righteous Rom 5:19 !
beloved57
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Those Christ died for are made righteous by His One obedience Rom 5:19. Apparently you dont believe !
Salvation has been provided for Everyone by the doing and the dying of Jesus so that now..."Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
Renounce your false calvinist God and live.
Renounce your false calvinist God and live.
One obedience? He obeyed more than one time...many different commands...
the text states one man's obedience not a man's (christ's) one obedience...
And yes many will be made righteous...many unspecified...as He didn't die for one specific group...but all who have sinned...so all man kind...
Those that believe He died and rose and for them are a group which forms after the event...
Those before the event believed it would be secured by One...
So since He obeyed are we not to also do the same?