It's funny you say this, because I've grown to agree. Perhaps orthodox Calvinism would be the true name of "hyper Calvinism".
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It's funny you say this, because I've grown to agree. Perhaps orthodox Calvinism would be the true name of "hyper Calvinism".
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I am so glad we agree!
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Luke 19:42 and said, "If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace--but now it is hidden from your eyes.
Luke 8:10
He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, "'though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.'
John 12:40
"He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."
Romans 11:8
as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day."
Matthew 13:14
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
Mark 4:12 so that, "'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"
Mark 8:17And Jesus, aware of this, said to them, "Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet see or understand? Do you have a hardened heart? 18"HAVING EYES, DO YOU NOT SEE? AND HAVING EARS, DO YOU NOT HEAR? And do you not remember,
John 3:18 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
Hebrews 12:11 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
John 1:13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.
Hebrews 10:19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus,
Acts 20:28
Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood.
1 Peter 1:2
chosen by the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
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The first book in the Bible tells us who and what Israel is. See Genesis 32:28.
Genesis 32:28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have overcome.”
Did you see that? The one who struggles with God and with men and overcomes…
And Jesus in the last book of the Bible confirms this message. See these scriptures in Revelation. Read what Jesus says about overcoming.
Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.
Revelation 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.
Revelation 2:17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.
Revelation 2:26 To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations–
Revelation 3:5 He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.
Revelation 3:12 Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name.
Revelation 3:21 To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Revelation 21:7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
And there is only one way a person can overcome this world, and that is through Jesus Christ our Savior.
1 John 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
Therefore, who and what is Israel---Israel is people who overcome by faith in Jesus Christ.
Just as Jacob is called Israel by overcoming, we too are Israel by overcoming by faith in Jesus.
Genesis 32:28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have overcome.”
Did you see that? The one who struggles with God and with men and overcomes…
And Jesus in the last book of the Bible confirms this message. See these scriptures in Revelation. Read what Jesus says about overcoming.
Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.
Revelation 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.
Revelation 2:17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.
Revelation 2:26 To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations–
Revelation 3:5 He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.
Revelation 3:12 Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name.
Revelation 3:21 To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Revelation 21:7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
And there is only one way a person can overcome this world, and that is through Jesus Christ our Savior.
1 John 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
Therefore, who and what is Israel---Israel is people who overcome by faith in Jesus Christ.
Just as Jacob is called Israel by overcoming, we too are Israel by overcoming by faith in Jesus.
Thank you for being honest. Better an honest enemy than a dishonest one.
Sorry, but this doesn't work. There are real people called Jews today. Jews who are not Christians. You are pretending that there are two separate worlds, and you can have one set of Jews in a soterioloical sense and different Jews in the real world. But it is a pretense.
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At least you can find something to like about what I said that can be a start.
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How about deal with the scriptures I gave about cut off Jews?
How about the scriptures that I gave that say all are condemned unless they come to God through Jesus?
How about the scripture that God says no longer of human descent (meaning no longer to whom you are blood related)?
How about the scripture that says no more by human decision? That is about any and all who decide to just become a Jew thinking that makes them a child of God...or a Jew who gets married and has his wife become one. God does not allow that anymore. It does not matter to whom one is blood related. It no longer matters about earthly land either.
How about [MENTION=5868]chair[/MENTION] looks in Acts 1 and Zechariah 14 to see Jesus comes back to literal Israel via Mt. of Olives, then links to Joel 3:2 to see why He starts near Jerusalem?
Nice try.
God is the original Zionist.
#So god goes back on His word?
#Tell me more God's Truth
#How about you don't
#Spiritual Israel, Reformed roots doctrine.
#Yummy doctrines of man
#lame attempt
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Nope, I don't know if Calvinists teach spiritual Israel, but I know Jesus teaches it.
You need to read His word more than studying what man teach.
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What don't you get about God does not care to whom we are blood related only to whom are covered with the blood of the Lamb?
How many times do I have to explain it to you that God cut off the Jews who were not acceptable to Him and then bound them all with the unsaved Gentiles?
Why don't you do what you insist the Calvinists do and pay better attention and respond to the scriptures given?
At no point have you addressed any point of the scriptures I shared, nor examined or explained them.
You falsely judged my character and refused to listen to me unless I pointed out your strong qualities. At what point will you stop tearing people down that only want to build you up as scripture commands us?
I'm not Jesus, so I'll never know.
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What you say about me is false.
You are falsely judging me.
I gave many scriptures to explain the two scriptures you did not understand.
I also explained to you very carefully that God does not care about to whom one is blood related.
God cares about our coming to Him by the blood of the Lamb.
Why don't you deal with the scriptures and explanations I gave?
My observation of what is a perpetual loop with you and why you have lost my respect.
Person: Hello GT
GT: Hello
Person: I believe such and such
GT: I don't. You are deceived and make Jesus a liar.
Person: You called me deceived?
GT: Yes
Person: Look at these scriptures
GT: Look at these 30 million scriptures
Person: You don't listen and only speak
GT: You are judging me
Person: Discussion only works if both people listen as well as share
GT: I don't need your judging me
Person....... ??? Alrighty then.
Exactly.
It is foolish man who thinks God cares about a piece of land in the middle east and fights over it.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
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In Acts 1:11... Jesus assends... In Acts 1:11, men are looking up and it is said to them "this Jesus who was received up from you into the heaven, shall so come in what manner ye saw him going into heaven."
Here, let me help... this Jesus who was received up from you into the heaven, shall so come in what manner ye saw him going into heaven.
But do we know "where" He ascended from?
Acts 1:12... Then did they return to Jerusalem from the mount that is called of Olives, that is near Jerusalem, a sabbath's journey;
Do you disagree with this scripture?
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[MENTION=10015]Lazy afternoon[/MENTION] and [MENTION=14521]God's Truth[/MENTION],
You're ignoring the New Testament link to the Old Testament. The Elephant in your room is breaking all of your furniture.
Blind to and scared of this scripture link
You're ignoring the New Testament link to the Old Testament. The Elephant in your room is breaking all of your furniture.
Blind to and scared of this scripture link
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...and you think that matters to me how?
Have I become your enemy for telling you the truth?
Get your little story straight. I do not tell people they call Jesus a liar, you do that.
You prove you do not make sense.
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You describe yourself and your own situation.
People such as yourself who do not have truth, they resort to insults, and some even try to make those insults sound like wisdom.
Talk about the scriptures or be quiet.