Pier evidently doesn't believe in the Trinity?
Jesus is God
- Thread starter Bright Raven
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Genesis, tells us that Christ (The Word) created all there is.
The scripture cannot be denied...they try, but John meets them at every point and turn they make
He was in the beginning with God
He was God
He made all things
he became flesh and blood
He dwelt among us
He was in the world and the world was made by Him but the world knew Him not.
By the way Pier, I didn't vote for Obama. I'm a Christian Conservative.
Good post. Pos-Rep for you.
journey
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I didn't either. I still can't believe that he got elected, especially to a second term. He's made a mess out of this country.
All Pierac can do now is post dozens of scriptures which seem to say that Christ is not God...but they can never deny the scriptures which say He is.
I say they SEEM to say because those scriptures can be understood differently.
I say they SEEM to say because those scriptures can be understood differently.
keypurr
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If you only knew the truth you would not see a God the son.
The Son has a God so the Son can not be God.
To become flesh he had to be something else before, yet you dismiss my thoughts that prove that the son is a spirit.
The world was made THROUGH him. God created all through his created son.
This is merely YOUR theory, my friend. That's all it is. Not everybody
will accept your theories as fact. You're a majority of one. If you so
desired you could start your own church or cult. That would be your
right as an American citizen. However, don't be surprised if your
attendance turns out, "unacceptably low?"
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Your big mistake. The Son is not created. You totally throw John 1:1 and 1 John 1:1-2 out with the bathwater. Jesus Christ is eternal. The same yesterday, today and forever. (Hebrews 13:8)
True
keypurr
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Scripture tells us that Jesus is not God. Jesus prays to his God, just like we do.
Your trying to defend a lie brought into the church many years ago.
Time to see and correct our forefathers errors.
Pierac can be brash but his intentions are not. He is a very smart person and many can learn from what he posts. Why do folks shut off their minds to ideas that conflict with what they have been taught? How can a person learn if all they wish to do is defend?
Your ability to discern wisdom and knowledge is lacking.
keypurr
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You do not understand John 1, Heb 1 or Col 1.
The Son is the express image of the Father.
Name ANY IMAGE that is not created. You can not friend.
The Father was alone at one point, nothing existed except the Father.
Then he created his firstborn and was pleased that it contained his fullness.
The Father created everything through his Son.
Jesus was born, he had a beginning.
Christ was made before time was created. He was with the Father at the creation.
You fail to think about what you post, jesus Christ is eternal NOW, but he had a beginning.
Only the Father had no beginning. Everything else is a creation.
keypurr
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Don't you get tired of being wrong?
I have studied those verses for nearly forty years. Get out your magic marker and magically make those verses go away because they do not fit with your theology.
glorydaz
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This is cult thinking and nothing else. :nono:
You've been told and shown and still deny Him. Shame on you, Keypurr.
God's Truth
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That is just another hateful false accusation from you.