Is White Privilege Real?

[glassjester]

I don't think it was being presented as proof of anything.

Fair enough, but NPR certainly led their witness, no?

And check out the complex interactions in the graphs from the paper. The results didn't even show a consistent bias against either race.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Fair enough, but NPR certainly led their witness, no?

And check out the complex interactions in the graphs from the paper. The results didn't even show a consistent bias against either race.

Thats more than leading their witness, its called lying.

 

[ok doser]

Still waiting on TH's favorite bit of evidence...

i'm running out of toes

 

[glassjester]

Thats more than leading their witness, its called lying.

And that's where the selectivity (that you correctly accused them of) came into it. They only reported the results that they liked.

 

[glassjester]

i'm running out of toes

This suspense is no joke, though. I'm itching to find out!

Who'll be racist next?
Mailmen in Toronto?
Crop dusters in Nebraska?

I need to know!

 

[kmoney]

Fair enough, but NPR certainly led their witness, no?

And check out the complex interactions in the graphs from the paper. The results didn't even show a consistent bias against either race.

The segment was about possible explanations for more pedestrians deaths of minorities so that could be why they focused on the disparity against people of color and left out the scenario where it went the other way.

 

[Angel4Truth]

The segment was about possible explanations for more pedestrians deaths of minorities so that could be why they focused on the disparity against people of color and left out the scenario where it went the other way.

And you don't see how leaving out the rest, creates a conclusion that NPR wants to say, instead of the truth, seriously?

What about the color of the drivers, are black drivers racist against black pedestrians? We could go on and on with all the criteria, left out of that.

 

[glassjester]

The segment was about possible explanations for more pedestrians deaths of minorities so that could be why they focused on the disparity against people of color and left out the scenario where it went the other way.

Kind of like how Doser reported that black people like watermelon, but left out the fact that white people also like watermelon?

 

[Angel4Truth]

:think: Maybe in the poor neighborhood, a lot of people have no license, are driving erratically after stealing a car, etc.. maybe the pedestrian was drunk or high, and on and on we go on the liberal wheel of "you are a racist" because i say so....

 

[Angel4Truth]

The segment was about possible explanations for more pedestrians deaths of minorities so that could be why they focused on the disparity against people of color and left out the scenario where it went the other way.

And thats why NPR panders, you buy it. You want it to be that way, the facts are irrelevant.

 

[kmoney]

And you don't see how leaving out the rest, creates a conclusion that NPR wants to say, instead of the truth, seriously?

I do wish they would have given more info from the study.

What about the color of the drivers, are black drivers racist against black pedestrians? We could go on and on with all the criteria, left out of that.

And that's why it isn't conclusive of anything. No one presented it as such.

 

[kmoney]

And thats why NPR panders, you buy it. You want it to be that way, the facts are irrelevant.

Yep, you got me. I think facts are irrelevant and believe whatever I want to be true.

 

[kmoney]

Kind of like how Doser reported that black people like watermelon, but left out the fact that white people also like watermelon?

No, not like that.

 

[glassjester]

No, not like that.

Oh, ok.

NPR reports that cars are less likely to stop for black pedestrians, and leaves out the parts of the research that suggest the opposite. Audiences cry racism.

Doser reports that black people like watermelon, and leaves out the fact that white people like watermelon. Audiences cry racism.

Not similar, though.

 

[kmoney]

Oh, ok.

NPR reports that cars are less likely to stop for black pedestrians, and leaves out the parts of the research that suggest the opposite. Audiences cry racism.

Doser reports that black people like watermelon, and leaves out the fact that white people like watermelon. Audiences cry racism.

Not similar, though.

Similar, yes. A difference is that white and black people were liking the same watermelon. In the traffic study the racial bias was different. Against blacks in the street, against whites waiting on the sidewalk. And if pedestrian deaths tilt toward minorities then a bias in the street is more relevant.

 

[glassjester]

Similar, yes. A difference is that white and black people were liking the same watermelon. In the traffic study the racial bias was different. Against blacks in the street, against whites waiting on the sidewalk.

Again - check out the graphs.

 

[kmoney]

Again - check out the graphs.

I was thinking of something I read from the study but I may have partially gotten it wrong. Check out section 3.2. It's not letting me copy it.

 

[kmoney]

Again - check out the graphs.

3.1. Number of cars that passed in the nearest lane before yielding while the pedestrian waited near the crosswalk at the curb
The first car in the nearest lane yielded to the pedestrian while they waited at the curb 51.5% of the time at the high income and 70.7% of the time at the low income crosswalk. A two-way ANOVA was conducted that examined the effect of income and race on driver yielding behaviors. There was a statistically significant interaction effect between neighborhood income and race on the number of cars that passed in the nearest lane before yielding while the pedestrian waited near the crosswalk at the curb (F(1,122) = 4.53, p = 0.03). When examining simple effects for race there were no significant differences in yielding at the low income crosswalk(F(1,122) = 2.84 p = 0.09) or the high income crosswalk (F(1,122) = 1.73 p = 0.19). The simple effects for neighborhood income revealed that for the white pedestrian drivers were less likely to yield at the high income compared to the low income crosswalk (F(1,122) = 11.18 p = 0.001); there was no significant difference in yielding at the high income compared to low income crosswalk for the black pedestrian (F(1,122) = 0.14 p = 0.71) (see Fig. 1).
3.2. Number of cars that passed through the crosswalk with the pedestrian in the same half of the roadway
A two-way ANOVA showed that there was a statistically significant interaction effect between neighborhood income and race on the number of cars that passed through the crosswalk with the pedestrian in the same half of the roadway (F(1,17.62) = 3.30, p = 0.01). Simple effects for race showed significantly more cars passed through the crosswalk while the black pedestrian was in the roadway compared to the white pedestrian at the high income
Fig. 2. Mean number of cars that passed through the crosswalk while the white and black pedestrians were in the same half of the roadway at the high and low income neighborhood midblock crosswalks (bars represent 95% confidence intervals).
crosswalk (F(1,124) = 6.62 p = 0.01); there was no significant racial difference at the low income crosswalk (F(1,124) = 1.06 p = 0.31). Simple effects for income revealed that for the black pedestrian there were significantly more cars that passed through the crosswalk while she was in the roadway at the high income compared to the low income crosswalk (F(1,124) = 4.40 p = 0.04); there was no significant difference for the white pedestrian in the number of cars that passed through the high income compared to the low income crosswalk (F(1,124) = 2.11 p = 0.15) (see Fig. 2).

 

[kmoney]

how about initials?

Nah, leave it all off.

 

[rexlunae]

obama, as state senator, voted to continue the practice of allowing the murder of babies born alive during an attempted abortion


that told me all i needed to know about his character

I can appreciate that perspective. But, since fetuses aren't babies, I can't agree with it.