How Religion Perverts the Nature and Character of God

Robert Pate

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You are talking about after resurrection from death..but now I can not make a correct judgment about anyone because I have incomplete knowledge about him....This the basis of forgiveness

No, the basis for the forgivness of sins is the shed blood of Christ.

I have judged you as not saved.
 

beloved57

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No, the basis for the forgivness of sins is the shed blood of Christ.

I have judged you as not saved.

You teach that millions for whom Christ shed His Blood for the remission of their sins Matt 26:28, shall yet die in their sins John 8:24 !
 

Robert Pate

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You teach that millions for whom Christ shed His Blood for the remission of their sins Matt 26:28, shall yet die in their sins John 8:24 !

God forces no one to believe on his Son Jesus Christ.

If you want to be saved you are going to have to come to Christ as a repentant sinner and ask him to save you.

Othewise you will perish in your sins.
 

beloved57

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God forces no one to believe on his Son Jesus Christ.

If you want to be saved you are going to have to come to Christ as a repentant sinner and ask him to save you.

Othewise you will perish in your sins.

Those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death even when they are enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10 !
 

beloved57

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God forces no one to believe on his Son Jesus Christ.

If you want to be saved you are going to have to come to Christ as a repentant sinner and ask him to save you.

Othewise you will perish in your sins.
That is false !
Those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death even when they are enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10 !
 

musterion

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That is false !
Those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death even when they are enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10 !

You don't believe that.

You believe they were reconciled in eternity past, before they ever existed and before they ever sinned and became enemies of God. So you don't believe Romans 5:10.
 

beloved57

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You don't believe that.

You believe they were reconciled in eternity past, before they ever existed and before they ever sinned and became enemies of God. So you don't believe Romans 5:10.

Apparently you don't believe it, I believe it because it is true and I have posted it many times before !
 

musterion

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One cannot believe that the death of Christ reconciled sinners while they were yet enemies, meaning while they were alive and sinning, and ALSO believe that God reconciled them in eternity passed before they ever sinned. Both cannot be true so only a fool would say he believes both.

You believe both.
 

beloved57

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One cannot believe that the death of Christ reconciled sinners while they were yet enemies, meaning while they were alive and sinning, and ALSO believe that God reconciled them in eternity passed before they ever sinned. Both cannot be true so only a fool would say he believes both.

You believe both.

Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies Rom 5:10 !
 

Robert Pate

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Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies Rom 5:10 !

And Christ died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

God is at peace with the world because of the doing and the dying of Jesus, Colossians 1:20-23.

You need to drop out of heresy school and believe the Gospel and become a Christian.
 

False Prophet

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If I rebuild what I once destroyed, then I prove myself to be a transgressor.
7 We Jews came to Christ, trying to be made right with God, and it became clear that we are sinners, too. Does this mean that Christ encourages sin? No! 18 But I would really be wrong to begin teaching again those things that I gave up.
gal 2
 

beloved57

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If I rebuild what I once destroyed, then I prove myself to be a transgressor.
7 We Jews came to Christ, trying to be made right with God, and it became clear that we are sinners, too. Does this mean that Christ encourages sin? No! 18 But I would really be wrong to begin teaching again those things that I gave up.
gal 2







And Christ died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

God is at peace with the world because of the doing and the dying of Jesus, Colossians 1:20-23.

You need to drop out of heresy school and believe the Gospel and become a Christian.
The whole world is not at peace with God, you do lie, for many are under God's wrath and condemnation John 3:18,36 !
 

Robert Pate

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The whole world is not at peace with God, you do lie, for many are under God's wrath and condemnation John 3:18,36 !

For now, God is at peace with the world because of the doing and the dying of Jesus.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to RECONCILE ALL THINGS unto himself" Colossians 1:20.

You read, but you do not understand because you are blind.
 

beloved57

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For now, God is at peace with the world because of the doing and the dying of Jesus.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to RECONCILE ALL THINGS unto himself" Colossians 1:20.

You read, but you do not understand because you are blind.

Many are now under God's wrath and condemnation John 3:18,36 so they are not reconciled to God, you do lie !
 

musterion

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Many are now under God's wrath and condemnation John 3:18,36 so they are not reconciled to God, you do lie !

He is the offended party. He has reconciled all TO HIMSELF. not Himself to us. We must believe He's done that per the Gospel of grace (not tulip) to be saved. There's no disconnect there.
 
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