Feminists are ok with adultery

[Rusha]

She's always trying to compromise blame whenever it comes to women, but when it comes to men, she dumps a bucket of blame while whipping him the back.

You have had ample time in the many years you have been posting here to collect all of these posts that you claim exist ... so either show them or just admit you are lying as well as projecting your own *blame dumping* onto me ... and all other women.

 

[Town Heretic]

She's always trying to compromise blame whenever it comes to women, but when it comes to men, she dumps a bucket of blame while whipping him the back.

I've never seen a double standard from her. You should try quoting instead of claiming. Or back your claim with a quote.

I don't need to explain that if a man commits adultery due to his wife using sex as a device of control, then they both share sin.

That sure sounds like you making an excuse for an adulterer. And you're wrong. Like saying the man isn't in control of himself. No one makes you sin. Someone may make it easier for you to sin, but the sin is still yours. Or do you mean she is sinning in her way and he in his? In that case, yes...though her's is a fault within the marriage and his is a fault that effectively ends it, unless she's of another mind.

You are, just like Rusha

I like her, but we have all sorts of differing opinions. This does sum a bit of your problem when it comes to argument and your apparent approach when it comes to anyone who doesn't lock step with you. It's lazy thinking.

you all suffer from a fundamental error of ideology.

That's a declaration. It's not an argument and it's nothing like proof. . . except that you don't know how to argue very well. :think: So that's something.

 

[Crucible]

You have had ample time in the many years you have been posting here

lain:

to collect all of these posts that you claim exist ... so either show them or just admit you are lying as well as projecting your own *blame dumping* onto me ... and all other women.

lain:

The internet's done messed up your brain :rotfl:

 

[Rusha]

The internet's done messed up your brain :rotfl:

Well Scarecrow, at least I have a brain to mess with ... :chuckle:

 

[Rusha]

I've never seen a double standard from her. You should try quoting instead of claiming. Or back your claim with a quote.

That sure sounds like you making an excuse for an adulterer. And you're wrong. Like saying the man isn't in control of himself. No one makes you sin. Someone may make it easier for you to sin, but the sin is still yours. Or do you mean she is sinning in her way and he in his? In that case, yes...though her's is a fault within the marriage and his is a fault that effectively ends it, unless she's of another mind.

He has this habit of playing the blame game just so long as the blame is aimed at the woman.

I WAS married and in order to work through the difficulties, I suggested marriage counseling. The counselor was recommended from the pastor of our church (who married us). The counselor was a man. We went to one session and when the counselor didn't agree that I was making a big deal over his propositioning my best friend, smoking weed in our home, partying with his friends to all hours and refusing to get rid a large collection of porn, he refused to go again.

I didn't actually file for divorce UNTIL I found him cheating. Crucible would like everyone to believe that wives are responsible for the actions of their husbands. They are not.

 

[eider]

Eh, that was actually part of Crucible's post that I forgot to delete out of my response. I am pro-death penalty for the crimes of treason, murder, rape and child molestation. It's not as punishment, but rather as a deterrent. Those who receive the death penalty will never be able to escape confinement and go on to commit more acts of violence.

Hi.....
Fair enough......
It's just that we kept on killing folks who had not done anything wrong, or who were beyond reason of their minds, or who were so immature in mind that they had not clue ....... Derek Bentley's case has to be a perfect example of all three conditions in one. We still hanged him.

Our most famous executioner who carried out the British executions after Nurenburg reckoned that his work was useless as deterent, punishment or penalty.

You mentioned child-molesters. Back in the early 90's I could work three days a week as a thief catcher in the retail trade because my process and tracing work only needed three days per week anyway. One day I watched this big man 50's, in a store, filling up his pockets with toy coins. Because these coins were offered free with a toy purchase, technically I didn't class them as having a value, so when he left the store without declaring them I just followed him so that I copuld have a think about it all. This man went to a kiddies playground and started to hand out the coins to kids who clamoured about him. I didn't do anything until he actually touched a child, and then I detained him and told him that the store manager wanted all his coins back and an explanation. We called the Police, who knew this guy, so they rushed to the store and whisked him away. He had a history of offences conndected with children.
But the thing is, as he spoke with me on the way back to the store it became obvious that he was clinically immature in mind, about 8 years old I would guess, about the age of the kids that interested him. He had lived in Saint Augustine's mental hospital most of his life until Britain decided to close all the mental hospitals to save money and put nearly all the patients out into the community. We called it 'Care in the Community'...... which basically means that we were a bunch of tight-**sed careless lying b's, basically.

We can't execute people like him, we can't hurt them..... they need to be looked after if we are a caring humane society. I often wonder about what happened to him, a victim of UK carelessness.

 

[Rusha]

You mentioned child-molesters. Back in the early 90's I could work three days a week as a thief catcher in the retail trade because my process and tracing work only needed three days per week anyway. One day I watched this big man 50's, in a store, filling up his pockets with toy coins. Because these coins were offered free with a toy purchase, technically I didn't class them as having a value, so when he left the store without declaring them I just followed him so that I copuld have a think about it all. This man went to a kiddies playground and started to hand out the coins to kids who clamoured about him. I didn't do anything until he actually touched a child, and then I detained him and told him that the store manager wanted all his coins back and an explanation. We called the Police, who knew this guy, so they rushed to the store and whisked him away. He had a history of offences conndected with children.
But the thing is, as he spoke with me on the way back to the store it became obvious that he was clinically immature in mind, about 8 years old I would guess, about the age of the kids that interested him. He had lived in Saint Augustine's mental hospital most of his life until Britain decided to close all the mental hospitals to save money and put nearly all the patients out into the community. We called it 'Care in the Community'...... which basically means that we were a bunch of tight-**sed careless lying b's, basically.

We can't execute people like him, we can't hurt them..... they need to be looked after if we are a caring humane society. I often wonder about what happened to him, a victim of UK carelessness.

One question ... had he ever been convicted with non-refutable evidence of violating a child? IF that were the case, then his mere existence would always be a danger to any children who were unfortunate enough to cross his path. The same is true of those who murder and rape. Their existence puts others in harm's way.

 

[eider]

One question ... had he ever been convicted with non-refutable evidence of violating a child? IF that were the case, then his mere existence would always be a danger to any children who were unfortunate enough to cross his path. The same is true of those who murder and rape. Their existence puts others in harm's way.

Yes. As I remember he had a conviction.
But...... (there's always a but....),,,,, we don't execute anybody anymore. Ruth Ellis may possibly have been the last convict to be executed here, over 50 years ago. I should have 'googled' her name for the exact date. Ruth killed her lover, a rich playboy. She was obsessed with and about him and he used her and dropped her at his whim, or that's what I think happened. Would Ruth have killed again? I can't think of who her next, or any, victim might have been.

In more recent times she would have been given a life sentence of about 20-30 years and been released on payroll when considered able to return to outside life. Our liders are always lifers, and are freed on payroll.

If I received an official letter, explaining that my name had been picked from the electroal role and it was my duty to attend an execution as the button pusher, I would not do it. Many might be prepared to, but I could not. It's just who I am...... I'm not judging anybody else, that's just me. My wife reckons that she could do it in cases of infanticide, but she's somewhat tougher than me.

 

[Crucible]

Their existence puts others in harm's way.

That's a bunch of nonsense as well. You ever heard of prison? There's many in their who gotlife instead of death because they had good lawyers. They didn't kill anyone else, you know why?

Prison

Not a hard concept.

 

[Rusha]

One question ... had he ever been convicted with non-refutable evidence of violating a child? IF that were the case, then his mere existence would always be a danger to any children who were unfortunate enough to cross his path. The same is true of those who murder and rape. Their existence puts others in harm's way.

That's a bunch of nonsense as well.

Nope ... child molesters and rapists are ALWAYS a risk to others as long as they keep breathing.

 

[Crucible]

Nope ... child molesters and rapists are ALWAYS a risk to others as long as they keep breathing.

But it's "da law" remember? So deal with it

 

[Rusha]

One question ... had he ever been convicted with non-refutable evidence of violating a child? IF that were the case, then his mere existence would always be a danger to any children who were unfortunate enough to cross his path. The same is true of those who murder and rape. Their existence puts others in harm's way.

That's a bunch of nonsense as well. You ever heard of prison?

Nope ... child molesters and rapists are ALWAYS a risk to others as long as they keep breathing.

But it's "da law" remember? So deal with it

I don't accept defense of or excuses for laws which allow previously convicted child predators to be granted the freedom of repeating their offense.

 

[Crucible]

I don't accept defense of or excuses for laws which allow previously convicted child predators to be granted the freedom of repeating their offense.

But you accept and defend laws that allow women to railroad men, so that just makes you a pretentious hypocrite, don't it? Riding the brownie train in bashing rapists is something to be expected of you, because you have to compensate somehow for your inconsistencies

Unfortunately for you, we don't kill people who haven't killed someone else. That is not 'justice', that is 'purging'. Though I'm sure because this is men we are talking about, and not women, you have no problem with being some 'ethical Hitler'. Just zip the lips, Rusha :thumb:

 

[Rusha]

But you accept and defend laws that allow women to railroad men,

:yawn: Boring fairy tale ... with no collaboration ... as in actual quote where I have stated or expressed any such sentiment.

 

[Crucible]

:yawn: Boring fairy tale ... with no collaboration ... as in actual quote where I have stated or expressed any such sentiment.

:rotfl:

That's a good one. Making bald lies must come easy when you have people that would deny the sky was blue if you told me it wasn't

 

[Rusha]

:rotfl:

That's a good one. Making bald lies

I wouldn't describe any of your lies as "a good one" .... but rather angry, self-serving declarations.

 

[Crucible]

I wouldn't describe any of your lies as "a good one" .... but rather angry, self-serving declarations.

There you go, talking about yourself again lain:

 

[Rusha]

I wouldn't describe any of your lies as "a good one" .... but rather angry, self-serving declarations.

There you go

:thumb:

 

[eider]

I don't accept defense of or excuses for laws which allow previously convicted child predators to be granted the freedom of repeating their offense.

Hi.... I'm back.....
Have you ever known a convicted child sexual offender?
Yep.... I have.... he lived opposite our place back in the 80's, and delivered free newspapers in the area each week. He was in his 50's at that time. I thought he was an OK bloke. Honest.
Our kids 8 & 10 years old, used to walk along the sea-wall to go to skating on the Pier once a week with other kids from our area, and one day this man approached me and said that he took all the kids to skating, cubs, girl-guides and everything else and I should let him take ours to skating. All the households called him uncle-***** because of his interest in and for them.
I said, 'Thanks, No thanks.' He persisted. I said ,'No mate. That's a No.' I thought he was OK, but I just wanted our kids to be free to come and go as they pleased.
Out of the blue, several months later, he got arrested. He had been found by Police in local woods with two little girls in his car and couldn't explain himself. Under questioning he cracked and gave it all up. He did not rape the girls..... they were virgins, but the Judge was furious that those girls needed to experience that inspection.
The Judge would have jailed him but his old mother was an invalid and he cared for her, son he was put on probation for a long time and had to attend counselling and psychiatric meetings.
The long-winded point is that he never came out of his home again. Either for fear, for shame or both he was never seen outside again. He died a few years ago and his estranged son inherited his home.... a very nice young man, by the way.
Nobody ever tried to hurt him or interfer with his home....... everybody just shunned him.
Should we kill these convicts? I don'#t want to argue with Pro-execution folks, because these questions are tough imo, but over here we just don't. There is only one country in the EU that executes murderers, for example.

 

[Rusha]

Should we kill these convicts? I don'#t want to argue with Pro-execution folks, because these questions are tough imo, but over here we just don't. There is only one country in the EU that executes murderers, for example.

I agree that the DP and execution is not a position to take lightly due to the seriousness of the punishment. In the example you gave, as a mother, I would still see this individual as a threat because really, if he isn't accounted for every minute of the day, no one outside of himself can truly know if he ever left the house again. Insofar as the punishment, their actions are responsible for ruining the childhood and possibly the lives of children.