YOU must pay for your SINS:

[Persephone66]

Says the fat guy in women's underpants.

On second thought, this statement provides a fine example of my "monkey poo flinging match" remark.

Thanks Nick!

 

[freelight]

yes, you reap whatever you sow.......

yes, you reap whatever you sow.......

The fool thinks that Jesus will pay for his sins. The Fool will pay for his own sins, because the fool will not obey from the heart, the doctrine of the Gospel / Baptism. – Jesus did the Gospel; - the death, burial, and the resurrection to purchase the Church, which is His spiritual Body.--- Mark 12:31 KJV – “Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these”. ----- You may say, and believe that Jesus did not love his own Body to the point of Worship, but you would be dead wrong, -- Jesus’ Body, the Church, is His WIFE. – Are you going to say, and teach that Jesus did not worship His Wife as much as His WIFE worships Her Husband? -- OOHH how smart some fools are! – Jesus SOO Loved the Church / His Wife that he gave his life that she may be saved; and the fool will not follow Jesus in his death of the cross, in BAPTISM. – In Baptism, one dies and is buried and is resurrected with Christ, to PAY for the sins of who-so-ever will take up Jesus’ cross and follow Him. --- And the world of lovers of themselves, ONLY asks Jesus to come into their heart and save them, when Jesus has NEVER said that Jesus would come to the sinner, but for the sinner to come to Him, Jesus is the door not the SINNER. – THAT’S ALL RIGHT! - You will pay for your own sins, and you can count on that. – Sins MUST BE PAID FOR. – Either one lets the Lord purchase his sins and let Him purify them in the fire, or you can take them to the fire yourself. ---- HHHHAAAA! - AND WE DON’T CARE IF YOU THINK YOU ARE YOUR OWN SAVIOR! – REJOICE! ---
Matthew 18:34 KJV – “And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should PAY ALL THAT WAS DUE unto him”. ----- Faith without works is DEAD, and WORKS without Faith is DEAD ALSO! – So the fool is obligated to do his own will and make himself pure, and the justified is obliged to do the WILL of Christ. - Don’t any of you who are foolish; DO ANYTHING to HELP Jesus pay for your sins? - You may take up His cross a ways, but YOU CAN’T, can you, - you’re too wise for that!

All you geniuses, scholars, and those who are wiser than God; you must know that you can PROVE me wrong now! – “YOU must pay for your own sins”. – You know that can’t be right, you’re smart!

If you were Angel, then you were not baptized, but you know you are not Angel. – All Angels were separated from the darkness before the world was, or the first day of the creation. – You knew that, I suppose, as smart as some of you are. – However, if YOU’VE been saved, then YOU are still the same one that needed to be saved, and still do. The lost needs to be saved, and when the lost is saved, he is a NEW CREATURE, and IS NOT the one who needed to be saved. That one has never been lost even from the beginning. --- NOW! Can you PROVE ME WRONG with all your LEARNING and HELP from your own kind? – Surely, by now some of you GENIUSES can find a contradiction somewhere that you can JUMP ON and slay me with your great sword of knowledge. ---- If you cannot judge me to be wrong, then you stand to be judged by the things that are written in the Books, and so stand you.

Paul – 080411

Oh dear, where does one begin here?

The fact of experience shows that one is always paying for his own mistakes (call them sins, etc.) for the universal law (karma) has each one reaping what he sows, this is also called the law of compensation. Every soul is responsible only for his own sins, as well as his own salvation, in as much as is in his power to receive such salvation and make amends (expiate his sins), which may include restitution, and all that is essential to right wrongs committed and reform himself. The suffering of every 'sinner' is theirs alone to bear,...no other person can 'pay' for anothers sins, neither be punished for such, according to the principle of 'self-responsibility'.

Even with a concept of 'atonement' or 'vicarious-sacrifice' ....while a deity or God-Man can mitigate or take on some karma on behalf of others, this never abrogates the principle of self-responsibility.



pj

 

[Letsargue]

Oh dear, where does one begin here?

The fact of experience shows that one is always paying for his own mistakes (call them sins, etc.) for the universal law (karma) has each one reaping what he sows, this is also called the law of compensation. Every soul is responsible only for his own sins, as well as his own salvation, in as much as is in his power to receive such salvation and make amends (expiate his sins), which may include restitution, and all that is essential to right wrongs committed and reform himself. The suffering of every 'sinner' is theirs alone to bear,...no other person can 'pay' for anothers sins, neither be punished for such, according to the principle of 'self-responsibility'.

Even with a concept of 'atonement' or 'vicarious-sacrifice' ....while a deity or God-Man can mitigate or take on some karma on behalf of others, this never abrogates the principle of self-responsibility.



pj

Oh Dear, where does one begin here?

One does pay for his own sins, not only in the carnal acts of sin, but also in the spiritual of the sin. - The SIN that everyone must pay for in the Spiritual is the crucifying of Jesus the Christ. – Jesus forgives that sin, “IF” one takes up Jesus’ cross, and calls it his own cross, and is crucified with Jesus on it, and is buried, and is resurrected by the savior of that one sin. - However, at the same time Jesus cleanses the sinner’s whole slate and writes upon it the Law and the GOSPEL.

Paul – 081511

 

[Letsargue]

Oh dear, where does one begin here?

The fact of experience shows that one is always paying for his own mistakes (call them sins, etc.) for the universal law (karma) has each one reaping what he sows, this is also called the law of compensation. Every soul is responsible only for his own sins, as well as his own salvation, in as much as is in his power to receive such salvation and make amends (expiate his sins), which may include restitution, and all that is essential to right wrongs committed and reform himself. The suffering of every 'sinner' is theirs alone to bear,...no other person can 'pay' for anothers sins, neither be punished for such, according to the principle of 'self-responsibility'.

Even with a concept of 'atonement' or 'vicarious-sacrifice' ....while a deity or God-Man can mitigate or take on some karma on behalf of others, this never abrogates the principle of self-responsibility.



pj

Sin is eternal, and cannot just be removed by turning from further doing it. – Past sins are hung around one’s neck like a mill-stone. The mortal, or another sinner or yourself cannot remove the sin of a spiritual nature. Any fool can spend time in jail for shoplifting and pay the state, but that doesn’t pay for the sin of the heart to start with, which is the reason for the sin.— Only the RIGHTOUS and the IMMORTAL JUDGE of all, can remove sin so that it never happened. – Even you cannot forgive a small sin of insult. You can over look it and call it “forgiveness” like other liars do, but that doesn’t mean that God has over looked it.

Paul – 081511