Wisconsin students group demands free tuition for black students

[ok doser]

It would need to be grounded in actual social oppression, such being, one who lived in the ghetto, had little chance to overcome a life of drugs and criminality. Not any black person who may have had equal advantages found in most middle-class people who are more likely to attend college.

The fictional Cosby family would have a greater chance for sending their kids to college than the fictional Bunker family.

Looking at actual example limits those suffering actual oppression to a very few. Most college bound blacks are more similar to white middle-class white than black kids raised in urban ghettos, or for that matter, white kids raised in poor rural trailer parks.

having taught in adjacent districts urban and suburban, I saw distressing similarities between the black students in the suburban schools and the black students in the urban schools - it was as if the black suburban students were determined to embrace those values that inevitably led to failure among their urban counterparts





btw - re:

The fictional Cosby family would have a greater chance for sending their kids to college than the fictional Bunker family.

great insight :thumb:

 

[glassjester]

It would need to be grounded in actual social oppression, such being, one who lived in the ghetto, had little chance to overcome a life of drugs and criminality. Not any black person who may have had equal advantages found in most middle-class people who are more likely to attend college.

The fictional Cosby family would have a greater chance for sending their kids to college than the fictional Bunker family.

Looking at actual example limits those suffering actual oppression to a very few. Most college bound blacks are more similar to white middle-class white than black kids raised in urban ghettos, or for that matter, white kids raised in poor rural trailer parks.

Yeah, so probably basing a scholarship on skin color is a stupid, and racist idea.

You're suggesting it would be better if based on location instead?

 

[Ktoyou]

The logic of grounding it in reality vanishes when looking closer. It used to be a real problem when accomplished black students were barred from the better schools.

This mantra of 'affirmative action' appealed far more to outdated white liberals than it does to educated black persons today.

 

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Wisconsin students group demands free tuition for black students



Would this be considered a privilege?

Only if you view a level playing field a symptom of privilege.

 

[glassjester]

Only if you view a level playing field a symptom of privilege.

Which scholarships are available only to white people?

If there are any, then you'd need scholarships for only black students in order to "level the playing field."
If there aren't any whites-only scholarships, then the playing field is already level.

 

[quip]

Which scholarships are available only to white people?

If there are any, then you'd need scholarships for only black students in order to "level the playing field."
If there aren't any whites-only scholarships, then the playing field is already level.

That's where the privilege of whites comes into play, they've a larger, well established and wealthier support system to draw from..... far more than minorities historically and - as a result - currently may draw upon.

 

[ok doser]

That's where the privilege of whites comes into play, they've a larger, well established and wealthier support system to draw from.....

tell me about this larger, well established and wealthier support system that poor whites can draw from

 

[Ktoyou]

That's where the privilege of whites comes into play, they've a larger, well established and wealthier support system to draw from..... far more than minorities historically and - as a result - currently may draw upon.

You are about 20 years out of date and obviously a white liberal.

 

[glassjester]

That's where the privilege of whites comes into play, they've a larger, well established and wealthier support system to draw from..... far more than minorities historically and - as a result - currently may draw upon.

No, "whites" don't. Certain individual people have more resources than others, of course. But there's no giant bank account that all whites are able to withdraw from.

 

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tell me about this larger, well established and wealthier support system that poor whites can draw from

No need. Your ancestors set the table for you.... or not.
Either way its more than minorities have been historically bequeathed.

 

[quip]

No, "whites" don't. Certain individual people have more resources than others, of course. But there's no giant bank account that all whites are able to withdraw from.

Never implied there was.

 

[quip]

You are about 20 years out of date and obviously a white liberal.

Uhhhh...ok :idunno:

 

[ok doser]

No need. Your ancestors set the table for you.... or not.

define "set the table"


do you have anything specific in mind?

 

[glassjester]

Never implied there was.

You said that white people have a large support system.

What is it?

 

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define "set the table"


do you have anything specific in mind?

Its a metaphor..figure it out.

 

[quip]

You said that white people have a large support system.

What is it?

Generations of networking; hard work....fruits of such labor passed down.

 

[ok doser]

Its a metaphor..figure it out.

once again, it appears that you don't have anything specific in mind


disappointing, quip

 

[ok doser]

Generations of networking.

so i can walk into an interviewers office and say "Hi! I'm white!" and they'll give me a job because of generations of networking?

 

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so i can walk into an interviewers office and say "Hi! I'm white!" and they'll give me a job because of generations of networking?

Historically yes..

Though you needn't bother to exclaim such.

 

[ok doser]

Historically yes..

not so much today?