Who will face Trump in the election of 2020?

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Hmmmm . . . . . Joe Biden is allegedly a "creep " for being a kind of touchy/feely guy who is affectionate to women ? But it's perfectly OK for our dear leader Trump to have been married three times, divorced twice and to openly boast about his infidelities ?
And there is almost no doubt about his current cheating on Melania .
It's perfectly OK for Trump to say how he likes to physically assault women and grab them by the you-know-what ? Biden hasn't been accused by numerous women of sexual assault . Trump has and quite credibly. If Biden treated women as horribly as Trump we would have heard about it by now .
Let's face it ; Trump has absolutely no control over his outsized libido, nor does he have any desire to exercise any control over it . Trump is absolutely devoid of self-control, restraint or discipline in life . How can we thus expect him to be a competent ,let alone great president ?
True, other presidents have been womanizers , but none of them has ever been so brazen about it .
He is a rapist, period . And there is very creditable evidence of Trump having RAPED a 13 year old girl back in the 90s. He makes Bill Clinton, who is admittedly no saint, look like a choirboy by comparison .
Yet so many evangelical Christians all over this country continue to idolize and worship Trump as if he were some kind of deity . They apply a double standard between Trump and Clinton .
They would look the other way if Trump went into Melania's bathroom in the White house while she was taking a bath and drowned her ! But Bill Clinton is a wicked adulterer and rapist who is the Antichrist . We know he has been unfaithful to Hillary but there is no proof of him ever having committed rape, only questionable accusations by certain rather questionable women .
Yes, none of the many current Democratic hopefuls is perfect, but any of them would still be vastly preferable to the most corrupt and incompetent president tin US history .
Trump had zero political experience when he was elected . Absolutely nothing in his background prepared him for the most difficult job in the history of the world . Zip. Nada. He was a failed and monstrously corrupt businessman who was nowhere near as rich as he claimed to be and host of a reality show on television . Yet millions of Americans voted for him because he is rich and famous and promised them the world without any ability to govern . Go figure .
And they voted for him despite the fact that his opponent Hillary Clinton had all the experience, knowledge, ability , brains and competence he lacked . America is paying the apprise for this disaster and worst has yet to happen .
 
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That story doesn't seem to be playing very well. And given that Trump is now being investigated for foreign emoluments from various nations,it's probably a conversation, he doesn't want to get started.

It's not just foreign corruption...

Federal Watchdog Finds Government Ignored Emoluments Clause With Trump Hotel
Officials leasing the Old Post Office Building for the Trump International Hotel in Washington improperly ignored the Constitution's anti-corruption clauses when they continued to lease the government property to President Trump even after he won the White House, according to an internal federal government watchdog.

The Inspector General for the General Services Administration, the agency that leased the building to Trump in 2013, said in a report published Wednesday that agency lawyers decided to ignore the constitutional issues when they reviewed the lease after Trump won the 2016 election.

"The GSA Office of General Counsel recognized that the President's business interest in the lease raised issues under the U.S. Constitution that might cause a breach of the lease, yet chose not to address those issues," said Inspector General Carol F. Ochoa. "As a result, GSA foreclosed an opportunity for an early resolution of these issues and instead certified compliance with a lease that is under a constitutional cloud."

Neither the White House nor the Trump Organization has responded to interview requests.

"Today, the GSA OIG confirmed what we all knew: The Trump Administration is in violation of the Emoluments clauses of the United States Constitution," said Rep. Gerry Connolly, D-Va., in a statement. "GSA's decision to not consider whether the President's business interest in the Old Post Office lease might be unconstitutional has enabled the President to line his pockets."
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/6859...nt-ignored-emoluments-clause-with-trump-hotel

But there's plenty of evidence for that, too:

Trump’s Stand on Saudi Murder Boosts Emoluments Lawsuit, AGs Say
Donald Trump’s continued support for Saudi Arabia even after a reported CIA finding that its crown prince ordered the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi bolsters a lawsuit over the president’s financial dealings with foreign governments, according to the attorney general for Washington, D.C.

The District of Columbia’s AG, Karl Racine, together with his Maryland counterpart, Brian Frosh, accuse Trump in the lawsuit of violating the U.S. Constitution’s emoluments clauses by profiting from his presidency. To prevent the corruption of policymaking, the rules forbid presidents to take payments of any kind from foreign or domestic sovereigns.
relates to Trump’s Stand on Saudi Murder Boosts Emoluments Lawsuit, AGs Say

The two Democrats claim the president is trampling on the rarely tested restrictions by allowing the Trump Organization’s luxury Washington hotel to do business with a host of foreign powers, including Saudi Arabia and its crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...audi-murder-boosts-emoluments-lawsuit-ags-say

On April 30, a federal district judge rejected Trump’s motion to throw out the lawsuit filed by approximately 201 members of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives alleging that Trump has flagrantly violated the Foreign Emoluments Clause. The case was largely overlooked as national attention has focused on Trump’s obstruction of justice and his efforts to block further congressional scrutiny of his abuses of power.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, in a comprehensive 48-page opinion, ruled that the narrow definition of “emoluments” advanced by Trump’s lawyers “disregards the ordinary meaning of the term as set forth in the vast majority of Founding-era dictionaries; is inconsistent with the text, structure, historical interpretation, adoption, and purpose of the Clause; and is contrary to Executive Branch practice over the course of many years.”

This was not the first time a federal judge has allowed such a case to go forward against Trump. Last July, in an equally comprehensive 52-page decision, U.S. District Judge Peter J. Messitte denied Trump’s attempt to dismiss a lawsuit filed by the attorneys general of the District of Columbia and the State of Maryland. Both these lawsuits in essence challenge Trump’s outrageous declaration that “I have a no-conflict situation because I’m president,” a haunting echo of Richard Nixon’s infamous and doomed claim that “when the president does it, that means it is not illegal.”

For the first time since the Constitution was ratified, both federal courts agreed with the plaintiffs that “emoluments” means “any profit, gain, or advantage” and rejected the president’s more narrow definition of “emoluments” to mean only a payment made as compensation for official services. Judge Messitte found Trump’s arguments “unpersuasive,” and “misplaced,” reflecting a “cramped interpretation” of the Constitution, which ignored the “large accumulation of historical evidence” and would lead to an “essentially absurd result.”
https://prospect.org/article/emoluments-clause-could-be-tipping-point-trumps-downfall
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Well it appears the Chinese and the Russians are doing some behind the scenes maneuvering to become kingmakers, and the evidence keeps surfacing every now and then no matter how hard they try to hide the struggle.
 
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Rusha said:
Fake news, followed up by “wouldn’t matter anyways”.
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I would say 'follow the money', Hillary was on the board at Walmart when they started pouring in the flood of Chinese goods, and you can follow the money easily from there to the Clintons.
 
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Hobie said:
I would say 'follow the money', Hillary was on the board at Walmart when they start pouring in the flood of Chinese goods, and you can follow the money easily from there to the Clintons.
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Yeah, I always wondered why Wal-Mart is the only retailer to sell Chinese goods. :think: (WFTH-I)
 
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Hobie said:
I would say 'follow the money', Hillary was on the board at Walmart when they start pouring in the flood of Chinese goods, and you can follow the money easily from there to the Clintons.
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Already done. The candidates I support don’t hide their tax returns. Followed up by ... doesn’t matter. Anyone is better than the current occupant and double standard criteria applied to his opponents.
 
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Anyway, getting back to the Democrats. I thought for sure Gavin Newson would be running for the presidency. Maybe he'll wait until 2024?
 
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Trump is absolutely devoid of self-control, restraint or discipline in life. How can we thus expect him to be a competent, let alone great president ?
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He has already shown himself to be a great President by his reduction of regulations and taxes, leading to economic growth and very low unemployment, for all groups.

He has already shown himself to be a great President by his standing up to China's raping of the U.S. economy, imposing tariffs until they change.

He has already shown himself to be a great President by his standing up to North Korea's nuclear-disarmament shell game, imposing sanctions until they change.

He has already shown himself to be a great President by his standing up to Iran's nuclear-development blackmail, and its terrorist-support across the Middle East, imposing sanctions until they change.

He has already shown himself to be a great President by his standing up to Mexico's policy of letting millions of illegal migrants pass freely from Central America to the U.S. border, by his threatening of tariffs on Mexico, which caused it to change. It now has its soldiers deployed in force along its southern border.

What more do you want?
 
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He has already shown himself to be a great President by his reduction of regulations and taxes, leading to economic growth and very low unemployment, for all groups.

He has already shown himself to be a great President by his standing up to China's raping of the U.S. economy, imposing tariffs until they change.

He has already shown himself to be a great President by his standing up to North Korea's nuclear-disarmament shell game, imposing sanctions until they change.

He has already shown himself to be a great President by his standing up to Iran's nuclear-development blackmail, and its terrorist-support across the Middle East, imposing sanctions until they change.

He has already shown himself to be a great President by his standing up to Mexico's policy of letting millions of illegal migrants pass freely from Central America to the U.S. border, by his threatening of tariffs on Mexico, which caused it to change. It now has its soldiers deployed in force along its southern border.

What more do you want?
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He wants him to become a corrupt, ineffective democrat woman named Hillary
 
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Rusha said:
Already done. The candidates I support don’t hide their tax returns. Followed up by ... doesn’t matter. Anyone is better than the current occupant and double standard criteria applied to his opponents.
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And yet Hillary fooled most of the people most of the time, you have to see what is behind them, and its no longer good enough to have people give you money, now you need deeper pockets...
 
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This thread is not about Hillary, but rather about the Dem nominee for the upcoming election. Biden. Warren. Harris.
Followed by ANY of them ...

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Rusha said:
This thread is not about Hillary, but rather about the Dem nominee for the upcoming election. Biden. Warren. Harris.
Followed by ANY of them ...

ANY
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It appears the same backers with deep pockets no matter the players, Hillary or not, are still in play and they have big stakes.
 
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Trump calls Warren "Pocahontas ". But the American Indians call Trump "Walking Eagle ". This is because he's so full of **** he can't fly ! I hope I won't get temporarily banned for this , but it's so funny !
 
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