glassjester
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Non-Catholics - what evidence would convince you that the Catholic Church was and is the Church founded by Christ?
What would make you Catholic?
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Nothing!
genuineoriginal
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The Catholics would have to repent of the idols first.
kind of like asking an atheist what would make them believe in God
the evidence is there
but
it has to be something that you want
glassjester
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But if the Catholic Church is Christ's Church, then we don't have idols.
I am not asking what teachings you personally would change. I am asking what evidence could convince you that the Catholic Church, as it exists today, was and is the Church founded by Christ.
glassjester
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Is it possible for a theological doctrine to be objectively true, even if you don't think it is?
nikolai_42
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Getting rid of the Papacy would be a big step in that direction...
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
...
But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Matthew 23:9,11
Then there's transubstantiation...
Brother Vinny
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One BILLION dollars.
Brother Vinny
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Basically what I'm hearing from others, gj, is that the Church will have to become Protestant at its core.
Jesus would have to come down from heaven and say that it is so.
Brother Vinny
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Bah, how would you know it wasn't an imposter?
glassjester
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So Christ Himself would be tested against your own personal religious beliefs?
He could only truly be Christ if he agreed with you?
glassjester
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Honest answer.
Brother Vinny
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Hey, what incontrovertible proof could he give? We're already warned there'll be false Christs in the end times.
It isn't about agreeing with me. It's about what empirical evidence he could provide. If signs and wonders are within the province of even the false Christs, what acid test could I use to prove the true Christ?
glassjester
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Then why declare Him an impostor, if He agreed with the Catholic Church?
In the last days the anti-Christ will come out of the Catholic church and will deceive many, Revelation 13:13, 14.
glassjester
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Is it possible for a theological doctrine to be objectively true, even if you personally believe it is false?
Brother Vinny
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You're missing the point. I would need some sort of acid test authenticating he was who he said he was before I'd believe what he has to say about the RCC.
glassjester
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Yet... you said if Christ Himself declared the Catholic Church to be the Church He founded, you'd believe Him.
Brother Vinny
Active member
Go back and re-read. You're conflating my post with someone else's.