What America's Greatest Generation Knew ...

PureX

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… And that our current generations have completely lost sight of.

Listen to this speech by Charlie Chaplin from the film "The Great Dictator", it expresses what Americans once understood, and believed, after having experienced the Great Depression and the rise of global fascism, a rise that caused two bloody world wars.



We were once human beings, willing to fight and die for each other's freedom and well-being. Now we are cowards, hating and blaming each other for our voluntary imprisonment by institutions created and supported by our own greed, and ignorance.

How far we have sunk. And how sad it is to see what we have become.
 

theophilus

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… And that our current generations have completely lost sight of.

Listen to this speech by Charlie Chaplin from the film "The Great Dictator", it expresses what Americans once understood, and believed, after having experienced the Great Depression and the rise of global fascism, a rise that caused two bloody world wars.



We were once human beings, willing to fight and die for each other's freedom and well-being. Now we are cowards, hating and blaming each other for our voluntary imprisonment by institutions created and supported by our own greed, and ignorance.

How far we have sunk. And how sad it is to see what we have become.

There's nothing in your OP to click on or listen to.
 

fzappa13

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"Science and progress will lead to all men's happiness" ...




... mmmmmm, no ... and he said that not long after lamenting our inventions having taken the place of people and their better qualities.


Charlie suggested we could create our own utopia. He was and is mistaken. He touched on the book of Luke but neglected to mention it's author and His plans for us. I think it a part of God's plan that He is going to let us get a real good snoot full of what it is like when we try to get it right. When we finally get enough and surrender then He'll show us how it's done.

The great dictator ... since God first called out a people they soon cried "give us a king." ... and so He did, much to their chagrin. Being ruled by Him was insufficient. We have been paying the price for that ever since. I think think peoples lives are a sort of abbreviation of so much of what we might consider history in the Bible and my life is no exception. I tried in my own Scotch/ Irish hard headed way to make the world around me right. Didn't work. It will never work. I know that now. I do not have the power however well intended I might be. We don't have the power.


Come Lord Jesus.
 

patrick jane

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… And that our current generations have completely lost sight of.

Listen to this speech by Charlie Chaplin from the film "The Great Dictator", it expresses what Americans once understood, and believed, after having experienced the Great Depression and the rise of global fascism, a rise that caused two bloody world wars.



We were once human beings, willing to fight and die for each other's freedom and well-being. Now we are cowards, hating and blaming each other for our voluntary imprisonment by institutions created and supported by our own greed, and ignorance.

How far we have sunk. And how sad it is to see what we have become.

What year was that made ? Good clip -
 

Totton Linnet

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… And that our current generations have completely lost sight of.

Listen to this speech by Charlie Chaplin from the film "The Great Dictator", it expresses what Americans once understood, and believed, after having experienced the Great Depression and the rise of global fascism, a rise that caused two bloody world wars.



We were once human beings, willing to fight and die for each other's freedom and well-being. Now we are cowards, hating and blaming each other for our voluntary imprisonment by institutions created and supported by our own greed, and ignorance.

How far we have sunk. And how sad it is to see what we have become.

C'mon America dropped 2 atomic bombs just to "show" the Ruskies, they purposely picked war with Japan.

FDR shocked his senior ministers at their very first meeting, he banged the table and declared "I want to be a war president"
 

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What America's Greatest Generation Knew ...

America didn't enter either WW1 or WW2 to preserve democracy or save the world from evil, it entered because it was forced!

WW1 started in 1914 but the US Congress didn't declare war until 6 April 1917 after Germany reintroduced unrestricted submarine warfare sinking of seven US merchant ships and the publication of the Zimmermann telegram.

WW2 started in 1939, but America didn't enter until after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 and Germany declared war on the US on December 11th, 1941.

America was Japan's major supplier of metal, copper and oil up until 1939.
 
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PureX

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What America's Greatest Generation Knew ...

America didn't enter either WW1 or WW2 to preserve democracy or save the world from evil, it entered because it was forced!

WW1 started in 1914 but the US Congress didn't declare war until 6 April 1917 after Germany reintroduced unrestricted submarine warfare sinking of seven US merchant ships and the publication of the Zimmermann telegram.

WW2 started in 1939, but America didn't enter until after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 and Germany declared war on the US on December 11th, 1941.

America was Japan's major supplier of metal, copper and oil up until 1939.
What does this have to do with anything? We fought fascism because it seeks to control and exploit everyone it can subjugate. If we didn't believe in freedom as our pathway to peace and happiness we would have joined them. Many, today, would, if they thought they'd get to be the exploiters instead of the exploited.

Americans were not always this weak and selfish. The generation that lived through the depression were able to appreciate the need to stick together, to survive. And they were able to recognize the reality of fascism pretending to be "the answer". But our generation is weak and divided against itself, and prone to the lies and absurd delusions of the fascists. And they own us a little more for it, every day.
 

brewmama

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What America's Greatest Generation Knew ...

America didn't enter either WW1 or WW2 to preserve democracy or save the world from evil, it entered because it was forced!

WW1 started in 1914 but the US Congress didn't declare war until 6 April 1917 after Germany reintroduced unrestricted submarine warfare sinking of seven US merchant ships and the publication of the Zimmermann telegram.

WW2 started in 1939, but America didn't enter until after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 and Germany declared war on the US on December 11th, 1941.

America was Japan's major supplier of metal, copper and oil up until 1939.

So?
 

PureX

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C'mon America dropped 2 atomic bombs just to "show" the Ruskies, they purposely picked war with Japan.

FDR shocked his senior ministers at their very first meeting, he banged the table and declared "I want to be a war president"
This was filmed in 1940. There was no Pearl Harbor attack, yet. And there were no atomic bombs.

And FDR was talking about joining our British allies against the nazis when he said "I want to be a war president". He understood that Europe couldn't be allowed to become a gigantic fascist state.
 

brewmama

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What does this have to do with anything? We fought fascism because it seeks to control and exploit everyone it can subjugate. If we didn't believe in freedom as our pathway to peace and happiness we would have joined them. Many, today, would, if they thought they'd get to be the exploiters instead of the exploited.

Americans were not always this weak and selfish. The generation that lived through the depression were able to appreciate the need to stick together, to survive. And they were able to recognize the reality of fascism pretending to be "the answer". But our generation is weak and divided against itself, and prone to the lies and absurd delusions of the fascists. And they own us a little more for it, every day.

You do realize what, specifically, led to your aforementioned "weakness and selfishness", right? Namely an abandonment of the values of sticking together to survive by learning to become "victims" and dependents on a government that bribes and enslaves them.
 

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Top 10 American Companies that Aided the Nazis

1. International Business Machines (IBM)
- 1933 - International Business Machines began providing Germany with punchcard machines that functioned as precursors to modern computers and databases
- as late as 1941, IBM was working in tandem with the Reich to liquidate Jews from Holland
- IBM employees were training SS personnel how to use their machines to record the movement, sorting, and mass execution of large numbers of undesirables, at times right in the headquarters of death camps

2. General Motors (GM)
- General Motors and Ford were sued by Holocaust survivors for assisting the Nazi war machine
- 1935 - GM built a factory in Berlin for the purpose of building “Blitz” trucks for the Wehrmacht
- GM was the number one producer of the vehicles that were vital for the quick conquests of Poland, France, and much of the Soviet Union
- Albert Speer, the minister of armaments and war production, claimed that the rubber GM supplied was the key to the ability of the Germans to wage war the way they did
- when America declared war on Germany, the Reich seized GM’s German production facilities.
- neither Ford nor General Motors never fully admitted that they had willingly participated in the use of slave labor

3. Ford Motor Company
- Henry Ford didn’t seem particularly inclined to distance his company or himself from the Nazis
- he accepted Germany’s highest honor freely and never returned the award while Hitler was alive
- was a committee member of the America First Association which advocated America stay out of World War II
- 1998 - it became public that the Third Reich had provided Ford’s factory in Cologne with 1,200 Russian slaves, as a potential form of compensation

4. Alcoa Aluminum
- 1941- Alcoa had a monopoly on aluminum in addition to owning a massive amount of America’s electricity production and other minerals
- prior to Germany declaring war on America, the 3rd Reich received 60% more aluminum products than Alcan was producing for America
- Alcoa sold the Axis powers so much aluminum that there was a shortage in America

5. Woolworth
- Woolworth fired all of its Jewish employees in Germany
- won them the designation “Adefa Zeichen,” an award reserved for companies that were “pure Aryan”
- what Woolworth did ultimately lent foreign legitimacy to the 3rd Reich's notorious anti-semitism

6. Brown Brothers Harriman
- early 1930s - Fritz Thyssen ran a business that he used to help finance Adolf Hitler’s rise to power
- Brown Brothers Harriman was a subsidiary company that was used as a base of American operations.
- Prescott Bush, father of President George W. H.Bush and grandfather of Ex-President George W. Bush, served onthe board of directors for Brown Brothers Harriman
- in 1942, the company’s assets were seized by the federal government and suspicions arose that some of the assets became part of the Bush family fortune

7. Dow Chemical
- Dow Chemical was one of the companies that provided large amounts of materials for the Nazis
- included not only raw materials but also American technological innovations with regards to oil refining
- allowed the Nazis to forgo their previous quotas to accommodate the influx
- the Nazis were taken by surprise with regard to how much material they were allowed to receive from American companies
- major reason why the 3rd Reich was able to achieve such a massive armament build-up in a short period

8. Chase Manhattan Bank
- Carlos Niedermann, Chase’s representative in Paris, had very good personal relations with the Nazis
- agreed to their requests that the bank seize the assets of at least one hundred Parisian Jews that were considered especially worth pursuing by the Reich
- Chase's colluding with the Reich was particularly heinous because it helped the Gestapo capture these people
-1998 - the company was part of a suit demanding reparations from Chase Manhattan, J. P. Morgan and Citibank for the millions of dollars stolen
- the survivors and descendants had to fight to not have large amounts of the payments eaten up by wire transfer fees

9. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
- prior to World War II, Germany was one of America’s most important film markets and American film studios were willing to bend over backward to appease the German government
- Warner Brothers ordered that the word “Jew” be taken out from their movies and invited Nazi dignitaries to visit their studio
- after the invasion of Poland in 1939, MGM donated prints of 11 of their films to the German Relief Effort
- these gestures came to an end only after the French and British markets threatened to boycott MGM if this collusion with the enemy
continued

10. Coca-Cola
- Coca-Cola was a major presence in Nazi German
- the very American nature of the product (wealth, flashy dreams, etc.) appealed very much to the German public
- 1942 - the company’s presence in the nation was seriously threatened Coca-Cola’s hundreds of bottling plants in Germany were naturally cut off from main American support
- Max Keith, the representative of the company in Germany at the time, redubbed the product “Fanta” for Reich consumption
- the bottling factories and processing plant were then used to provide Germany’s citizens a key element to keep their energy up to support the war effort
- after the war, Keith, in an amazing display of company loyalty, turned over the wartime profits to the parent company when the Allied armies arrived

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-american-companies-that-aided-the-nazis.php

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The co-operation and collusion between prominent US companies and the 3rd Reich was not one of America's prouder moments and was responsible for Germany's rearmament and the subsequent deaths of many GIs.
 
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jgarden

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What does this have to do with anything? We fought fascism because it seeks to control and exploit everyone it can subjugate. If we didn't believe in freedom as our pathway to peace and happiness we would have joined them. Many, today, would, if they thought they'd get to be the exploiters instead of the exploited.

Americans were not always this weak and selfish. The generation that lived through the depression were able to appreciate the need to stick together, to survive. And they were able to recognize the reality of fascism pretending to be "the answer". But our generation is weak and divided against itself, and prone to the lies and absurd delusions of the fascists. And they own us a little more for it, every day.
Americans in the 1930's and 40's were considered both soft and self-indulgent by the Germans and Japanese. Part of their strategy was to inflict such high casualties that the US would be forced to negotiate for peace.

I'm sure that both nations couldn't believe their good fortune with the amount of war materials US corporations were allowed to export to both, prior to and during the first 3 years of WW2.

Americans have invented a mythology that they were saving the world from tyranny when in reality they stood by from 1939 to the end of 1941, making huge war profits, while providing war materials to the Japanese as they invaded Korea, Manchuria and China while the Germans occupied Poland, France, North Africa, Russia, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Yugoslavia, etc.

Footnote: - Charlie Chaplin was born in England.
-He was labelled a communist in America during the Cold War, received a subpoena to appear before the House Un-American Activities Committee and was investigated by the FBI.
- Unwilling to change his "leftist" views or apply for American citizenship, Chaplin moved to Switzerland.
- Representative John E. Rankin, who helped establish the House Un-American Activities Committee told Congress in June 1947 that: "[Chaplin's] very life in Hollywood is detrimental to the moral fabric of America. [If he is deported] ... his loathsome pictures can be kept from before the eyes of the American youth. He should be deported and gotten rid of at once."
 
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