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Rusha

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I'm not much in favour of jab passports Rusha .
Some people are very frightened about jabs because of past reactions with others. My wife has had horrible reactions to the flu virus but in her case she decided to take the AZ jab and fortunately only had a tiny rash and headache for one day, but others are worried. I am waiting for a nasty operation in connection with a blood clot in a kidney but decided to have the AZ jab anyway. But others surely have the right to decide against the jab without losing freedoms and rights.

And in any case, if we do get passports then the whole lot will be redundant in a few months when covid evolves yet again to a resistant strain.
We will simply have to agree to disagree. The rights I am speaking against is the *rights* of non-maskers to go to places where they are in close proximity to others without taking the simple precaution of a mask. Those are the ones who would refuse the vaccination for petty reasons. You and your wife do not fit into the category.
 

eider

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We will simply have to agree to disagree. The rights I am speaking against is the *rights* of non-maskers to go to places where they are in close proximity to others without taking the simple precaution of a mask. Those are the ones who would refuse the vaccination for petty reasons. You and your wife do not fit into the category.
Where I live I have never seen any body not wearing a mask or refusing to wear a mask. Nobody.

So to imagine a place where folks are trying to enter buses, shops, trains, offices, hospitals unmasked is just very very odd indeed.

And I don't know anybody who has refused the vaccine here, but there will be people who cannot cannot have the jab and they should not be punished for that with exclusions.
 

ok doser

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Masks help- they are not 100%, but they help.
Masks help by slowing down the spread of large particulate matter such as globs of spittle or mucus that would be carrying virus and that would be apt to be managed by 6' distancing without a mask.

Masks are useless against individual suspended viral particles. So is 6 ft distancing.

So keep fooling yourself
 

eider

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Masks help by slowing down the spread of large particulate matter such as globs of spittle or mucus that would be carrying virus and that would be apt to be managed by 6' distancing without a mask.

Masks are useless against individual suspended viral particles. So is 6 ft distancing.

So keep fooling yourself
Professor doser has professed.
But where I live he wouldn't get anywhere without obeying our rules and laws.
 

Rusha

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Where I live I have never seen any body not wearing a mask or refusing to wear a mask. Nobody.

So to imagine a place where folks are trying to enter buses, shops, trains, offices, hospitals unmasked is just very very odd indeed.

And I don't know anybody who has refused the vaccine here, but there will be people who cannot cannot have the jab and they should not be punished for that with exclusions.
See ... there’s the difference. Your country and citizens took the virus serious. In the US, there is this macho attitude that followed months of lies and avoidance of dealing with the virus.

You won’t be one of those intentionally putting the lives of others in danger.
 

marke

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I'm not interested in proving anything to you. 3 months ago we were in deep trouble with overpressed hospitals .... And then we all started to take the vaccinations ..... And then the hospital intake started to fall and the daily death rate fell. Now our deaths have fallen by 92% since January and we are still waiting for the 2nd jabs.

Who cares what you think?
Our hospitals were stressed a year ago which is why Trump sent two hospital ships to New York to care for covid patients. Cuomo said to hell with Trump and his ships, he was going to house covid patients in rest homes. And the rest is history.
 

marke

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I will receive my second dosage of the MODERNA vaccine on 4/23. Even though I may end up sick the following day, again, I am just grateful that I am getting it months earlier than previously projected.

IMO, those who refuse for petty reasons continue to put others at risk and should be banned from schools and businesses.
Maybe one reason so many blacks are refusing to take the vaccine is that Hank Aaron died from complications from the vaccine so soon after getting it.
 

marke

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And yet super-spreader anti-maskers feel they have the right to infringe on the health of others.
BTW, a business or school refusing to serve those who do not comply to their rules does not infringe on your rights.
If you are concerned about super spreaders you must be terrified at what Biden is allowing to take place at the border.
 

ok doser

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If you are concerned about super spreaders you must be terrified at what Biden is allowing to take place at the border.
Or in Seattle

"Schoolchildren are privileged and must be made to suffer"




Thanks Joe, you filthy rapist!
 

marke

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Nope. Punishment should be reserved for those who refuse to protect their neighbor via masks, social distancing and vaccination until such a time that the CV is no longer running rampant.
My family and friends have freely associated in large numbers without masks for months, dating back to the summer of last year. There is no super spreader danger here. My wife and I, as well as several friends and family members, got the virus and got over it. It was like the flu. I am not going to get the vaccine until people stop having serious adverse reactions, including death, from it. Those who live in fear are wrong to accuse others of trying to kill them by not shutting down their businesses and hiding in their homes until nobody on the planet gets the virus again.
 

marke

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Masks help- they are not 100%, but they help. Slowing down the spread of this virus help control it. Masks don't hurt businesses or people- what's the big deal?
Vaccines work. Remember Smallpox? Polio?
Even Fauci admitted masks are ineffective at controlling the spread of the virus. The problem is that ignorance has blossomed into mass hysteria among the ignorant who fear they will die if everyone in the country does not wear masks. That is not only nonsense but highly destructive. We don't need to destroy the economy and freedom just because the fearful think we should in order to protect them from their irrational fears of assumed dangers.
 

ok doser

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My family and friends have freely associated in large numbers without masks for months, dating back to the summer of last year. There is no super spreader danger here. My wife and I, as well as several friends and family members, got the virus and got over it. It was like the flu. I am not going to get the vaccine until people stop having serious adverse reactions, including death, from it. Those who live in fear are wrong to accuse others of trying to kill them by not shutting down their businesses and hiding in their homes until nobody on the planet gets the virus again.
It's important to remember that Rusha is not speaking from personal experience, she's speaking from the lies that she gets from the MSM on a daily basis, the lies that tell her that there are all these inconsiderate people, selfish people, Trump supporters, white supremacists, racist people out there who don't care about other people and want to put other people at risk because they're horrible people, because they're Trump supporters. This is the world that Rusha chooses to immerse herrself in every single day.

In fact most people who are adamant about not wearing a mask are young people who are largely apolitical but if pushed would probably identify as Biden supporters. But you'll never get through the shell that Rusha has created to avoid reality. She lives in a comfortable little cocoon where she's fed the lies from the MSM every day. It's a comfortable place. Many of her compatriots live in the same little cocoons. Eider is one.
 

marke

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I couldn’t care less if people wear masks or social distance as long as they are prohibited from schools and businesses that actually care enough about their fellow human beings to follow the necessary standards of safety.
You should be more sensible and stop advocating for imposing unscientific authoritarian bans on free Americans who are in no danger from living free and doing business as usual.
 
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