Originally posted by taoist
Deconstruction? I'll show you deconstruction, heh, heh. Agnostic — a + gnostic, not a knower. Atheist — a + theist, not a theist. All agnostics are atheists. Some atheists, however, are not agnostics. They claim to know there is no magic.
The term agnostic was fittingly coined by the 19th-century British scientist Thomas H. Huxley, who believed that only material phenomena were objects of exact knowledge. He made up the word from the prefix a-, meaning “without, not,” as in amoral, and the noun Gnostic.
Opes, Zimfan, yer eye skipped over something. "Disbelieves or denies" ... is how that first definition is given. While you're right as far as one who denies god having a definite negative belief, the first verb is disbelieves, which relates to a lesser certainty than denial.I'm guessing the second definition of agnostic on that site describes more people than the first. That same site describes an atheist as ...
1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.
2. A Godless person.
Anyone falling under category one has a definite belief in there being no God and can't be an [agnostic]. I'm not quite sure what they mean by a Godless person. However, if they mean a non-christian (as the majority of christians would use the term) then of course an agnostic is also an atheist.
P.S. I've never seen the movie or the book. I take it the latter is better?
P.P.S. Is Thomas Huxley a relative of that other famous agnostic, Aldous Huxley?
If then, said I, the question is put to me would I rather have a miserable ape for a grandfather or a man highly endowed by nature and possessed of great means of influence & yet who employs these faculties & that influence for the mere purpose of introducing ridicule into a grave scientific discussion, I unhesitatingly affirm my preference for the ape.