This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

[annabenedetti]

Just another diversion from Trump's war and the Epstein Files.

Norm Eisen on the empty indictment of the SPLC:

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These allegations are a smear. None of them withstands scrutiny.​

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The indictment centers on the SPLC’s use of paid informants to infiltrate white supremacist groups. That is not unusual. It is often difficult to get inside groups seeking to overthrow the U.S. government or impose their racist vision on the country. The FBI itself regularly uses informants, and the “courts have recognized” that it “is lawful and often essential to the effectiveness of properly authorized law enforcement investigations.”​

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Indeed, the SPLC provided intelligence from its informant network to law enforcement agencies, including the FBI — a fact not included in the indictment. The exclusion of any mention of the longstanding working relationship between the SPLC and the FBI is outrageous and undermines the entire premise of the case. “We frequently shared what we learned from informants with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI,” Bryan Fair, the SPLC’s interim president, said in a video defending his organization.​

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Patel knows Fair’s statement is true. Patel severed “all ties” between the FBI and SPLC in October 2025, as he wrote on X. Patel’s statement is an admission that the SPLC had those ties and was providing intelligence to the bureau. In fact, before Patel ended the relationship, Republican congressmen and conservative activists frequently complained that the FBI was cooperating too closely with the SPLC.​

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Nevertheless, the DOJ alleges that the SPLC’s use of informants was part of a “scheme and artifice” to deceive donors. Acting U.S. Attorney Kevin Davidson alleges in the indictment that though SPLC’s “stated mission included the dismantling of white supremacy and confronting hate across the country” it was “unbeknownst to donors,” secretly using “donated money … to fund the leaders and organizers of racist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the National Alliance.”​

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However, the indictment utterly fails to explain how these payments to extremist leaders undercut the SPLC’s stated mission. Nor does it say how anyone working for the center intentionally deceived donors. Nor could it; if you surveyed donors to the organization, they have already stated or would almost undoubtedly say that investigating hate is exactly what they wanted to support and that these claims are reprehensible.​

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The DOJ’s entire case centers on the SPLC’s alleged payments to ten informants inside extremist groups. Our special report, which will be posted here at The Contrarian at noon today, details the facts regarding these informants. The report makes evident that not a one justifies the criminal charges brought against the SPLC. . . .​

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The hollow, desperate accusations underscore the extent to which the Trump regime wants Americans to believe that the SPLC, which has fought white supremacy since its founding in 1971, was secretly sponsoring white supremacy. That is utter nonsense.​

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“WE KNEW THEY WERE PAYING INFORMANTS”: SPLC DONORS REJECT TRUMP DOJ FRAUD CLAIMS ​

Twenty donors to the Southern Poverty Law Center said the alleged “fraud” being prosecuted in their name was exactly how they hoped the group would spend their money.

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[Arthur Brain]

Just another diversion from Trump's war and the Epstein Files.

Norm Eisen on the empty indictment of the SPLC:

​

These allegations are a smear. None of them withstands scrutiny.​

​

The indictment centers on the SPLC’s use of paid informants to infiltrate white supremacist groups. That is not unusual. It is often difficult to get inside groups seeking to overthrow the U.S. government or impose their racist vision on the country. The FBI itself regularly uses informants, and the “courts have recognized” that it “is lawful and often essential to the effectiveness of properly authorized law enforcement investigations.”​

​

Indeed, the SPLC provided intelligence from its informant network to law enforcement agencies, including the FBI — a fact not included in the indictment. The exclusion of any mention of the longstanding working relationship between the SPLC and the FBI is outrageous and undermines the entire premise of the case. “We frequently shared what we learned from informants with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI,” Bryan Fair, the SPLC’s interim president, said in a video defending his organization.​

​

Patel knows Fair’s statement is true. Patel severed “all ties” between the FBI and SPLC in October 2025, as he wrote on X. Patel’s statement is an admission that the SPLC had those ties and was providing intelligence to the bureau. In fact, before Patel ended the relationship, Republican congressmen and conservative activists frequently complained that the FBI was cooperating too closely with the SPLC.​

​

Nevertheless, the DOJ alleges that the SPLC’s use of informants was part of a “scheme and artifice” to deceive donors. Acting U.S. Attorney Kevin Davidson alleges in the indictment that though SPLC’s “stated mission included the dismantling of white supremacy and confronting hate across the country” it was “unbeknownst to donors,” secretly using “donated money … to fund the leaders and organizers of racist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the National Alliance.”​

​

However, the indictment utterly fails to explain how these payments to extremist leaders undercut the SPLC’s stated mission. Nor does it say how anyone working for the center intentionally deceived donors. Nor could it; if you surveyed donors to the organization, they have already stated or would almost undoubtedly say that investigating hate is exactly what they wanted to support and that these claims are reprehensible.​

​

The DOJ’s entire case centers on the SPLC’s alleged payments to ten informants inside extremist groups. Our special report, which will be posted here at The Contrarian at noon today, details the facts regarding these informants. The report makes evident that not a one justifies the criminal charges brought against the SPLC. . . .​

​

The hollow, desperate accusations underscore the extent to which the Trump regime wants Americans to believe that the SPLC, which has fought white supremacy since its founding in 1971, was secretly sponsoring white supremacy. That is utter nonsense.​

​

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“WE KNEW THEY WERE PAYING INFORMANTS”: SPLC DONORS REJECT TRUMP DOJ FRAUD CLAIMS ​

Twenty donors to the Southern Poverty Law Center said the alleged “fraud” being prosecuted in their name was exactly how they hoped the group would spend their money.

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Patel would be better off not doing his job and swigging cans in a locker room...and as for Bondi's replacement - Todd blanche, one can only hope the lunacy of the current clown show of an administation ends ASAP and the after effects don't last decades....

 

[ok doser]

Just another diversion from Trump's war and the Epstein Files.

Norm Eisen on the empty indictment of the SPLC:

​

These allegations are a smear. None of them withstands scrutiny.​

​

The indictment centers on the SPLC’s use of paid informants to infiltrate white supremacist groups. That is not unusual. It is often difficult to get inside groups seeking to overthrow the U.S. government or impose their racist vision on the country. The FBI itself regularly uses informants, and the “courts have recognized” that it “is lawful and often essential to the effectiveness of properly authorized law enforcement investigations.”​

​

Indeed, the SPLC provided intelligence from its informant network to law enforcement agencies, including the FBI — a fact not included in the indictment. The exclusion of any mention of the longstanding working relationship between the SPLC and the FBI is outrageous and undermines the entire premise of the case. “We frequently shared what we learned from informants with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI,” Bryan Fair, the SPLC’s interim president, said in a video defending his organization.​

​

Patel knows Fair’s statement is true. Patel severed “all ties” between the FBI and SPLC in October 2025, as he wrote on X. Patel’s statement is an admission that the SPLC had those ties and was providing intelligence to the bureau. In fact, before Patel ended the relationship, Republican congressmen and conservative activists frequently complained that the FBI was cooperating too closely with the SPLC.​

​

Nevertheless, the DOJ alleges that the SPLC’s use of informants was part of a “scheme and artifice” to deceive donors. Acting U.S. Attorney Kevin Davidson alleges in the indictment that though SPLC’s “stated mission included the dismantling of white supremacy and confronting hate across the country” it was “unbeknownst to donors,” secretly using “donated money … to fund the leaders and organizers of racist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the National Alliance.”​

​

However, the indictment utterly fails to explain how these payments to extremist leaders undercut the SPLC’s stated mission. Nor does it say how anyone working for the center intentionally deceived donors. Nor could it; if you surveyed donors to the organization, they have already stated or would almost undoubtedly say that investigating hate is exactly what they wanted to support and that these claims are reprehensible.​

​

The DOJ’s entire case centers on the SPLC’s alleged payments to ten informants inside extremist groups. Our special report, which will be posted here at The Contrarian at noon today, details the facts regarding these informants. The report makes evident that not a one justifies the criminal charges brought against the SPLC. . . .​

​

The hollow, desperate accusations underscore the extent to which the Trump regime wants Americans to believe that the SPLC, which has fought white supremacy since its founding in 1971, was secretly sponsoring white supremacy. That is utter nonsense.​

​

​

“WE KNEW THEY WERE PAYING INFORMANTS”: SPLC DONORS REJECT TRUMP DOJ FRAUD CLAIMS​

Twenty donors to the Southern Poverty Law Center said the alleged “fraud” being prosecuted in their name was exactly how they hoped the group would spend their money.

​

 

[ok doser]

Just another diversion ... the Epstein Files.

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The Epstein files that Biden and Harris had control of for four long years and you guys didn't pretend to care at all?

Those Epstein files?

 

[ok doser]

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However, the indictment utterly fails to explain how these payments to extremist leaders undercut the SPLC’s stated mission.​

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The SPLC's stated mission was to fund the KKK and Aryan Nations?

 

[ok doser]

Just another diversion from Trump's war and the Epstein Files.

Norm Eisen on the empty indictment of the SPLC:

​

These allegations are a smear. None of them withstands scrutiny.​

​

The indictment centers on the SPLC’s use of paid informants to infiltrate white supremacist groups. That is not unusual. It is often difficult to get inside groups seeking to overthrow the U.S. government or impose their racist vision on the country. The FBI itself regularly uses informants, and the “courts have recognized” that it “is lawful and often essential to the effectiveness of properly authorized law enforcement investigations.”​

​

Indeed, the SPLC provided intelligence from its informant network to law enforcement agencies, including the FBI — a fact not included in the indictment. The exclusion of any mention of the longstanding working relationship between the SPLC and the FBI is outrageous and undermines the entire premise of the case. “We frequently shared what we learned from informants with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI,” Bryan Fair, the SPLC’s interim president, said in a video defending his organization.​

​

Patel knows Fair’s statement is true. Patel severed “all ties” between the FBI and SPLC in October 2025, as he wrote on X. Patel’s statement is an admission that the SPLC had those ties and was providing intelligence to the bureau. In fact, before Patel ended the relationship, Republican congressmen and conservative activists frequently complained that the FBI was cooperating too closely with the SPLC.​

​

Nevertheless, the DOJ alleges that the SPLC’s use of informants was part of a “scheme and artifice” to deceive donors. Acting U.S. Attorney Kevin Davidson alleges in the indictment that though SPLC’s “stated mission included the dismantling of white supremacy and confronting hate across the country” it was “unbeknownst to donors,” secretly using “donated money … to fund the leaders and organizers of racist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the National Alliance.”​

​

However, the indictment utterly fails to explain how these payments to extremist leaders undercut the SPLC’s stated mission. Nor does it say how anyone working for the center intentionally deceived donors. Nor could it; if you surveyed donors to the organization, they have already stated or would almost undoubtedly say that investigating hate is exactly what they wanted to support and that these claims are reprehensible.​

​

The DOJ’s entire case centers on the SPLC’s alleged payments to ten informants inside extremist groups. Our special report, which will be posted here at The Contrarian at noon today, details the facts regarding these informants. The report makes evident that not a one justifies the criminal charges brought against the SPLC. . . .​

​

The hollow, desperate accusations underscore the extent to which the Trump regime wants Americans to believe that the SPLC, which has fought white supremacy since its founding in 1971, was secretly sponsoring white supremacy. That is utter nonsense.​

​

​

“WE KNEW THEY WERE PAYING INFORMANTS”: SPLC DONORS REJECT TRUMP DOJ FRAUD CLAIMS​

Twenty donors to the Southern Poverty Law Center said the alleged “fraud” being prosecuted in their name was exactly how they hoped the group would spend their money.

​

A grand jury was convinced that case had merit.

I'm willing to wait and see if a judge and jury agree.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

“WE KNEW THEY WERE PAYING INFORMANTS”: SPLC DONORS REJECT TRUMP DOJ FRAUD CLAIMS​

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Paying them to do what, exactly?

 

[ok doser]

For those of you wondering who the heck Norm Eisen is, he's a "legal analyst" for CNN.

Kind of like bragging about being a professional soccer player.

 

[ok doser]

Paying them to do what, exactly?

Create more racial division to enhance the SPLC's ability to fundraise

 

[Arthur Brain]

Just another diversion from Trump's war and the Epstein Files.

Norm Eisen on the empty indictment of the SPLC:

​

These allegations are a smear. None of them withstands scrutiny.​

​

The indictment centers on the SPLC’s use of paid informants to infiltrate white supremacist groups. That is not unusual. It is often difficult to get inside groups seeking to overthrow the U.S. government or impose their racist vision on the country. The FBI itself regularly uses informants, and the “courts have recognized” that it “is lawful and often essential to the effectiveness of properly authorized law enforcement investigations.”​

​

Indeed, the SPLC provided intelligence from its informant network to law enforcement agencies, including the FBI — a fact not included in the indictment. The exclusion of any mention of the longstanding working relationship between the SPLC and the FBI is outrageous and undermines the entire premise of the case. “We frequently shared what we learned from informants with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI,” Bryan Fair, the SPLC’s interim president, said in a video defending his organization.​

​

Patel knows Fair’s statement is true. Patel severed “all ties” between the FBI and SPLC in October 2025, as he wrote on X. Patel’s statement is an admission that the SPLC had those ties and was providing intelligence to the bureau. In fact, before Patel ended the relationship, Republican congressmen and conservative activists frequently complained that the FBI was cooperating too closely with the SPLC.​

​

Nevertheless, the DOJ alleges that the SPLC’s use of informants was part of a “scheme and artifice” to deceive donors. Acting U.S. Attorney Kevin Davidson alleges in the indictment that though SPLC’s “stated mission included the dismantling of white supremacy and confronting hate across the country” it was “unbeknownst to donors,” secretly using “donated money … to fund the leaders and organizers of racist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the National Alliance.”​

​

However, the indictment utterly fails to explain how these payments to extremist leaders undercut the SPLC’s stated mission. Nor does it say how anyone working for the center intentionally deceived donors. Nor could it; if you surveyed donors to the organization, they have already stated or would almost undoubtedly say that investigating hate is exactly what they wanted to support and that these claims are reprehensible.​

​

The DOJ’s entire case centers on the SPLC’s alleged payments to ten informants inside extremist groups. Our special report, which will be posted here at The Contrarian at noon today, details the facts regarding these informants. The report makes evident that not a one justifies the criminal charges brought against the SPLC. . . .​

​

The hollow, desperate accusations underscore the extent to which the Trump regime wants Americans to believe that the SPLC, which has fought white supremacy since its founding in 1971, was secretly sponsoring white supremacy. That is utter nonsense.​

​

​

“WE KNEW THEY WERE PAYING INFORMANTS”: SPLC DONORS REJECT TRUMP DOJ FRAUD CLAIMS ​

Twenty donors to the Southern Poverty Law Center said the alleged “fraud” being prosecuted in their name was exactly how they hoped the group would spend their money.

​

Oh dear, you obviously hit a nerve with some here, still, considering the sources of these "allegations" and a gullible audience then what else are ya gonna get?

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

Here's the inditement: https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1437146/dl

 

[annabenedetti]

Paying them to do what, exactly?

Same reason the FBI pays informers.


Paying informants to infiltrate hate groups has, however, been used by federal law enforcement agencies “for decades, if not longer,” said Javed Ali, associate professor of practice at the Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy at the University of Michigan and a former senior counterterrorism official at the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.

The FBI has long paid, and probably is still paying, confidential sources across the country to gather intelligence on extremist groups, including organizations like those named in Tuesday’s indictment, Ali said . . . .

Paying people to take serious risks − and working with private organizations that pay their informants − is a tried and tested way to access the inner workings of criminal and extremist organizations, said Pat Cotter, a former public prosecutor who helped investigate and prosecute Mafia crime families in the 1990s.

“If you want to know what’s going on in the sewer, you have to walk through a lot of [redacted],” Cotter said. “If you want to know what the Nazis are doing, you have to talk to a Nazi.”

Cotter decried the SPLC indictment, calling it “ludicrous and idiotic.”

The alleged use of fictitious business entities to pay informants makes perfect sense, he said, because it ensured the sources weren’t receiving money directly from the SPLC that could possibly be traced. Claiming the creation of such entities amounts to fraud is “a unique if not perversely inventive theory of fraud,” Cotter said.

“The idea that people who contribute to the Southern Poverty Law Center would have objected that some of their funding was going to pay people who infiltrated extremist far-right groups like the Ku-Klux Klan is ridiculous on its face,” Cotter said. “It’s stupid. It doesn’t pass the laugh test.”

FBI: SPLC paid informants without donors knowing. Feds pay them too

The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted for allegedly paying sources in hate groups without donors knowing. The FBI also pays informants

www.usatoday.com

 

[ok doser]

Same reason the FBI pays informers.


Paying informants to infiltrate hate groups has, however, been used by federal law enforcement agencies “for decades, if not longer,” said Javed Ali, associate professor of practice at the Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy at the University of Michigan and a former senior counterterrorism official at the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.

The FBI has long paid, and probably is still paying, confidential sources across the country to gather intelligence on extremist groups, including organizations like those named in Tuesday’s indictment, Ali said . . . .

Paying people to take serious risks − and working with private organizations that pay their informants − is a tried and tested way to access the inner workings of criminal and extremist organizations, said Pat Cotter, a former public prosecutor who helped investigate and prosecute Mafia crime families in the 1990s.

“If you want to know what’s going on in the sewer, you have to walk through a lot of [redacted],” Cotter said. “If you want to know what the Nazis are doing, you have to talk to a Nazi.”

Cotter decried the SPLC indictment, calling it “ludicrous and idiotic.”

The alleged use of fictitious business entities to pay informants makes perfect sense, he said, because it ensured the sources weren’t receiving money directly from the SPLC that could possibly be traced. Claiming the creation of such entities amounts to fraud is “a unique if not perversely inventive theory of fraud,” Cotter said.

“The idea that people who contribute to the Southern Poverty Law Center would have objected that some of their funding was going to pay people who infiltrated extremist far-right groups like the Ku-Klux Klan is ridiculous on its face,” Cotter said. “It’s stupid. It doesn’t pass the laugh test.”

FBI: SPLC paid informants without donors knowing. Feds pay them too

The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted for allegedly paying sources in hate groups without donors knowing. The FBI also pays informants

www.usatoday.com

Really - that's the ONLY reason the FBI infiltrates criminal organizations? To gather intelligence?

What do they do with that intelligence?
Just keep it in a nice bouquet in a vase? Change the water once in awhile?

What did the SPLC do with the intelligence they pretended to gather?

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

Same reason the FBI pays informers...Paying informants to infiltrate hate groups..Paying people to take serious risks...to gather intelligence...

I want you to take a look at the language used in your above post and remind yourself that the SPLC isn't a law enforcement agency.

It looks to me that the SPLC and their supporters are trying to play this off by saying; Yeah but they were sharing their tips with the FBI, so it's ok.

I can understand your point of view. It's just a bunch of stupid racists anyway, so who cares? Why would a man care so much about what another man looks like anyway? I might even be able to 1-up you and make a decent argument that people who promote racism should get the death penalty. How would anyone dare to actively destroy the life of a child, because of their skin color, or even passively allow it for political or monetary gain?

So do you understand why people would take this seriously?

The language the SPLC is using in their defense is that they were sharing "tips" and "information" with the FBI. This sorta tells me that these "tips" the SPLC received were not a part of an authorized investigation. So I think the FBI wouldn't have had any authority to tell the SPLC to open up fake bank accounts or anything like that. Does that make sense? One is not simply "sharing tips with the FBI" when it gets to this point.

But besides that, I would like to know how the SPLC knew the money that they were paying people, didn't ultimately work to promote racism in the first place. Would you be interesting in knowing that also?

Paying informants to infiltrate hate groups

Ok. The SPLC isn't a