"Therefore, Abortion Must Remain Legal"

[SammyT]

The surgical procedure of abortion is ALWAYS done with the sole intention of killing the unborn baby. The goal should always be to save both the mother and the child.

Yes, I agree completely. Abortion on demand should be illegal. There you now have saved both the life of the mother & the child, the child won't be murdered, and the woman doesn't have to worry about the abortion going wrong & killing her too. Problem solved. If she cannot afford to raise the child, give it up for adoption.

I'm going to get off this topic for a bit. It's very depressing & I don't want it on my mind when I go to bed in a few.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Yes, I agree completely. Abortion on demand should be illegal. There you now have saved both the life of the mother & the child, the child won't be murdered, and the woman doesn't have to worry about the abortion going wrong & killing her too. Problem solved. If she cannot afford to raise the child, give it up for adoption.

I'm going to get off this topic for a bit. It's very depressing & I don't want it on my mind when I go to bed in a few.

Wow Sammy, that was quite a patronizing speech.

Out of curiosity, how would you go about recriminalizing a procedure that has been legal for over 40 years and well over one million woman and teenage girls partake in annually? (and I'm only talking about surgical abortions, not drug induced ones)

You do realize that if abortion were recriminalized there would be massive riots and blood shed on the streets of America don't you Sammy? (and we all know that violence is bad).

Don't you think that "too much water has gone over the damn" at this point and that it's not practical to recriminalize abortion?

BTW, do you "agree with Dr. Paul" and believe that abortion (per the United States Constitution) is a states rights matter?

 

[SammyT]

Wow Sammy, that was quite a speech.

Out of curiosity, how would you go about recriminalizing a procedure that has been legal for over 40 years and well over one million woman and teenage girls partake in annually? (and I'm only talking about surgical abortions, not drug induced ones)

You do realize that if abortion were recriminalized there would be massive riots and blood shed on the streets of America don't you Sammy? (and we all know that violence is bad).

Don't you think that "too much water has gone over the damn" at this point and that it's not practical to recriminalize abortion?

I see where you're going with this. The difference is the anti-abortion movement has tons more support at this time. The only thing really stopping this barbaric practice from being practiced Is the leftist haggs on the SC. The homosexual movement, on the other hand..is gaining support at this point in time. Like I've said to you before, I am not against recriminalizing homosexuality, I'm right there with you..it should've never been decriminalized. But the support just isn't there. We should try to build support for recriminalization, but we should also focus on saving the one last institution that isn't completely under control of the cultural Marxist scum, that is the traditional family unit.

We have a lot of work to do on even more levels than just those two in order to get this culture back on track. Too bad you'd rather troll me instead of realizing I am not your enemy, neither is GFR or anyone else here who you've gone loco en de cabeza on for no good reason.

Your threads have some great stuff, but I don't want to participate on them if the thread author, who is supposed to be on the same page as I am, is accusing me of being a homer for no good reason whatsoever.

Have a good night, aCW.

 

[SammyT]

Not sure if I agree with Paul on that. I believe it is a federal issue.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

I see where you're going with this
The difference is the anti-abortion movement has tons more support at this time.

So if something that it terribly terribly wrong has more "support", that is a good reason to engage the other side in a bloody battle?

The only thing really stopping this barbaric practice from being practiced Is the leftist haggs on the SC. The homosexual movement, on the other hand..is gaining support at this point in time.

But so much water has gone over the bridge Sammy, and we both know that if the Christian Taliban were to recriminalize abortion (if you're against choice, you're obviously a member of the Christian Taliban) that there would be blood shed on the streets of America Sammy. Surely you're not ready to fight the abortion/homosexual/pornography movement are you Sammy?

Like I've said to you before, I am not against recriminalizing homosexuality, I'm right there with you..it should've never been decriminalized. But the support just isn't there. We should try to build support for recriminalization, but we should also focus on saving the one last institution that isn't completely under control of the cultural Marxist scum, that is the traditional family unit.

You make the cultural Marxist scum look like an amateur with your smooth talking Sammy.

Surely this isn't the same SammyT that wrote these words in another thread is it?

...You need to move to Uganda bro, you don't have the right temperment to make any changes here. I hear the weather is nice & being a homosexual can get someone 14 years to life in prison, just how you like it. Your utopia awaits you, it is Uganda.

Smh...you are a troll out to make Christians look bad, aCW. He who smelled it, dealt it after all... You keep claiming everyone but yourself is a phony & a homosexual, probably to divert attention from the fact you're a homosexual trolling as a fundementalist.

How do you propose we recriminalize homosexuality in this political climate, aCW? It ain't going to happen right now or any time soon. You know this, because you are a homosexual troll trying to make christians look bad.

I know you perverts have infested every institution, that needs to be addressed and it will be.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101920&page=82

We have a lot of work to do on even more levels than just those two in order to get this culture back on track. Too bad you'd rather troll me instead of realizing I am not your enemy, neither is GFR or anyone else here who you've gone loco en de cabeza on for no good reason.

Your threads have some great stuff, but I don't want to participate on them if the thread author, who is supposed to be on the same page as I am, is accusing me of being a homer for no good reason whatsoever.

Have a good night, aCW.

Goodnight princess, I hope that you can sleep well tonight, as I know how this depressing talk can effect your much needed beauty sleep.

 

[SammyT]

Oh good grief...

Yes it's the same SammyT, saying the exact same thing I said before. I asked you to tell me how to recriminalize homosexuality in this political climate, & I here I am again, telling you the climate isn't right to push that on the level it would need to be pushed.

I am done with you, maybe some time next month I will give you some attention. Might want to work on being less of a prick, aCW.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Oh good grief...

Yes it's the same SammyT, saying the exact same thing I said before. I asked you to tell me how to recriminalize homosexuality in this political climate, & I here I am again, telling you the climate isn't right to push that on the level it would need to be pushed.

I am done with you, maybe some time next month I will give you some attention. Might want to work on being less of a prick, aCW.

(Oh my, princess has lost his temper yet again and needs to have his filthy sodomite mouth washed out).

In SammyT's world, killing unborn babies is worth recriminalizing (provided the "climate is right"), but the physical, mental and spiritual molestation of innocent children isn't.

I feel badly as I think I might be the reason behind SammyT missing out on much needed beauty sleep tonight.

 

[SammyT]

Anybody on this site that has dealt with me on this board at all knows that what aCW says is not so. Anyone who has a reading comprehension above a 3rd grade level knows I am just as against the normalization of homosexuality & all the ills that come with it.

This guy is a pathetic troll who feels anyone who discusses the homo agenda on this board has to be vetted by him or something.

 

[WizardofOz]

People who say they believe abortion is murder don't really believe it.

And I can show it right here:

If you were able to go into the past and prevent either World War II ~or~ the past three years of abortions worldwide, but could only choose one, which one would it be?

No need to entertain a lie:
~you don't believe abortion is murder, so stop preaching it~

:doh: What a logic fail :hammer:

If you were able to go into the past and prevent either World War II ~or~ a murder that happened in Chicago last week, but could only choose one, which one would it be?

No need to entertain a lie:
~you don't believe the murder in Chicago is murder, so stop preaching it~

Do you understand how illogical your question is?
:help:

 

[WizardofOz]

The surgical procedure of abortion is ALWAYS done with the sole intention of killing the unborn baby. The goal should always be to save both the mother and the child.

:thumb:

 

[Skybringr]

:doh: What a logic fail :hammer:

If you were able to go into the past and prevent either World War II ~or~ a murder that happened in Chicago last week, but could only choose one, which one would it be?

No need to entertain a lie:
~you don't believe the murder in Chicago is murder, so stop preaching it~

Do you understand how illogical your question is?
:help:

It's not illogical at all. The whole point of it is to show that you don't really value a fetus as much as a person already born and experiencing life, you just *think* you do.

If you had to choose between a toddler and a three month old fetus, you would choose the toddler.
And it's just that simple.

 

[GFR7]

Anybody on this site that has dealt with me on this board at all knows that what aCW says is not so. Anyone who has a reading comprehension above a 3rd grade level knows I am just as against the normalization of homosexuality & all the ills that come with it.

This guy is a pathetic troll who feels anyone who discusses the homo agenda on this board has to be vetted by him or something.

Oh, he did the same to me , as you well know. Didn't matter how much I warned against same sex marriage, the Rainbow agenda, etc.: He has me pegged as a homosexualist and truck stop pick up who will die of AIDS soon. :idunno: :dizzy:

 

[Lighthouse]

The surgical procedure of abortion is ALWAYS done with the sole intention of killing the unborn baby. The goal should always be to save both the mother and the child.

:thumb:

:doh: What a logic fail :hammer:

If you were able to go into the past and prevent either World War II ~or~ a murder that happened in Chicago last week, but could only choose one, which one would it be?

No need to entertain a lie:
~you don't believe the murder in Chicago is murder, so stop preaching it~

Do you understand how illogical your question is?
:help:

No, he or she does not.

It's not illogical at all. The whole point of it is to show that you don't really value a fetus as much as a person already born and experiencing life, you just *think* you do.

If you had to choose between a toddler and a three month old fetus, you would choose the toddler.
And it's just that simple.

You are making an assumption with no basis in evidence. You do not know this to be true of anyone here.

 

[Skybringr]

You are making an assumption with no basis in evidence. You do not know this to be true of anyone here.

The fact that neither you or anyone else have said 'I couldn't choose because they are both the same' tells me all I need to know

 

[SammyT]

The fact that neither you or anyone else have said 'I couldn't choose because they are both the same' tells me all I need to know

I wouldn't choose either one, if I had a time machine....I would go back to the Garden of Eden and kill the serpent before he could convince Eve and then Adam to destroy mankind's true destiny.

I like you man, but your hypothetical means nothing...it's just a hypothetical and nothing more.

 

[Lighthouse]

The fact that neither you or anyone else have said 'I couldn't choose because they are both the same' tells me all I need to know

No it doesn't.

Again you are making assumptions.

You assume we have not dealt with people asking similar questions. You are assuming we haven't answered, in the past, that we could not choose and subsequently dealt with the questioner whining that we had to because hat was the way they set up the question.

Now stop whining that we won't play your game.

 

[Rusha]

I wouldn't choose either one, if I had a time machine....I would go back to the Garden of Eden and kill the serpent before he could convince Eve and then Adam to destroy mankind's true destiny.

I like you man, but your hypothetical means nothing...it's just a hypothetical and nothing more.

Oh, but it's more than that. This is what pro-abortion advocates do. They distract from the main focus point of the discussion: the unborn baby.

Abortion is mainly done for one reason: the selfishness of the mother and father.

 

[Lighthouse]

...your hypothetical means nothing...it's just a hypothetical and nothing more.

Yup.

 

[SammyT]

Oh, but it's more than that. This is what pro-abortion advocates do. They distract from the main focus point of the discussion: the unborn baby.

Abortion is mainly done for one reason: the selfishness of the mother and father.

Agree 100%. you can mark that down. (0:

 

[GFR7]

Oh, but it's more than that. This is what pro-abortion advocates do. They distract from the main focus point of the discussion: the unborn baby.

Abortion is mainly done for one reason: the selfishness of the mother and father.

True. A man and woman have sex with no desire to have a child. Then the pregnancy comes, unwanted, and the unborn baby is viewed as a trespasser against their private right to have sex without consequences. So the baby must die, to set things back to the privacy mode. From personal experience, this is the driving motivation, without softening the brutal selfishness of it.